I dare not weigh in for a couple of reasons 1. is i carry a kahr , and 2. is anytime i dream ( or remeber ) anything just fuglyer than that formfactor , well somone will search the bowells of firearms design hell and prove me wrong . suffice it to say that i consider about all the new plastic framed pistols as " ugly " . At least while you look at them , how some of them run is just spanky . I adore my 1911s my HP brownings , My pre war Walthers , However i carry day to day my " disposable " pistols which no matter the cost not will incite wars from my heirs. Its all good tho because they can fight over my carry guns ( from the early 80s thro the late 90s , and i have most of em ) when i am done with them . Tis fugly , but then so is the value of a pistol .