Tell me what you think ...350 Legend hunting rifle

[mehavey]

Again, once things quit snowing/warm up a tad, I run this one out to 200.

https://thefiringline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6765165&postcount=138

 

[mehavey]

OK, ran it out to FXRGC today (38° was as good at was going to get.)

WIN XPR* (I cheated w/ its 22" barrel) and the standard Speer 180FP/Norma-200 loadout.

Ran one target at 100 to re-adjust zero to hit high at 100 by 3-4"

Then ran another target for group -- first at that 100,
then moved same target out to 200 for 2nd impact point

Coupla Notes:
That XPR is very light. It does not like a bag rest (horizontal dispersion)
Bag it, but firm forearm hold.

Afterwards on a whim, I pulled out some Commercial Winchester 180gr 'PowerPoint'
(just plain ol' soft point w/ a fancy name) and fired 3 rounds before I left the 200 yd
line and called it a day

It grouped just under 2" -- and overlaid the Speer impact point.




* I had Sandy Garrett bed it. (So cheat #2)

 

[stagpanther]

I can see with adjustments of your scope's zero you can get that MPBR; and what I call MPBR is restricted by what I consider is maximum PBR. I personally do not think the velocity, energy and bullet drop characteristics make the legend an effective big-game cartridge beyond 150 yds--if that.

 

[mehavey]

That's why I made (make) no comment beyond showing the data.
`Tis up to the user at that point as to sufficiency.

 

[rickt300]

All the hemming and hawing over the round being a 200 yard deer round, why? The vast majority of deer are killed inside of that. In fact where I hunt 150 yards of open enough to shoot is a rare occurrence. I have used my AR in 350 legend for gun chores and deer hunting last fall and this spring. It's a pretty solid gun when it comes to feral hogs at night. Might be a bit much for killing hogs in traps. After loading and shooting some 400 rounds I like the round. Don't see a downside in any way.

 

[MarkCO]

All the hemming and hawing over the round being a 200 yard deer round, why? The vast majority of deer are killed inside of that. In fact where I hunt 150 yards of open enough to shoot is a rare occurrence. I have used my AR in 350 legend for gun chores and deer hunting last fall and this spring. It's a pretty solid gun when it comes to feral hogs at night. Might be a bit much for killing hogs in traps. After loading and shooting some 400 rounds I like the round. Don't see a downside in any way.

Yep. I have cleanly killed Deer with my long range match rifle at every 100 yards out to 1000. BUT, the vast majority of my Deer have been taking inside 150 yards with handguns, archery, black powder, and lever actions. I've had Deer step over my legs and had to wait until they got about 100 yards away to move so I would not spook them.

Frankly, I prefer to use my .41 Magnum, .414 SuperMag and .35 Remington for deer.

 

[USAF Ret]

Yep. I have cleanly killed Deer with my long range match rifle at every 100 yards out to 1000. BUT, the vast majority of my Deer have been taking inside 150 yards with handguns, archery, black powder, and lever actions. I've had Deer step over my legs and had to wait until they got about 100 yards away to move so I would not spook them.

Frankly, I prefer to use my .41 Magnum, .414 SuperMag and .35 Remington for deer.

I have always wanted a 41 Magnum in a Ruger Super Blackhawk. How hard are the bullets, brass and dies to find?

EDIT - Never mind Mark, answered my own question. Available and inexpensive. I said I don't need another...but.

 

[MarkCO]

A Super Blackhawk is what ignited my love of the .41 Magnum.

 

[44 AMP]

Tell me what you think ...350 Legend hunting rifle

What I think is that its a .35 Reminton in a different suit, one that can be "worn" in states that require straight wall cases 1.8" long, or less for deer.

If you don't live/hunt in those places, I see no point to it. And, I am amazed at some people touting it as a 200yd or further round, when that was never the case with the .35 Rem.

And I think Winchester choose their profit margin over convenience for reloaders by using the .355" diameter rather than the common rifle .358" bore size.

I think the old joke about "How do you make the .35Rem a 200-250yd deer and elk round?"

"Put it in a Contender pistol!!"

May also apply to the .350 Legend....

 

[jetinteriorguy]

I have always wanted a 41 Magnum in a Ruger Super Blackhawk. How hard are the bullets, brass and dies to find?

EDIT - Never mind Mark, answered my own question. Available and inexpensive. I said I don't need another...but.

Starline makes brass for the .41 mag and it’s available fairly regularly. You can get Lee dies anytime from Titan, and for crimping you can request a custom collet crimp die from them for a pretty reasonable price.

 

[stagpanther]

I have a regular new model blackhawk in 41 mag--I remember when I went through my 41 mag infatuation period many years ago even then the super blackhawks in 41 mag were very hard to find and usually done in periodic small batch releases. Be prepared to spend boocoo bucks to get one. handloading for it, like 44 mag, is very easy.

 

[USAF Ret]

I have a regular new model blackhawk in 41 mag--I remember when I went through my 41 mag infatuation period many years ago even then the super blackhawks in 41 mag were very hard to find and usually done in periodic small batch releases. Be prepared to spend boocoo bucks to get one. handloading for it, like 44 mag, is very easy.

An there you go tempting me. I was looking at prices last night. New Blackhawk in 41 runs about mid-$700. Not a Super Blackhawk. I have other projects and things I am doing, but keeping it on my radar.

 

[USAF Ret]

A Super Blackhawk is what ignited my love of the .41 Magnum.

I had a 44 in AK with wood grips. Not much fun to shoot and for the purpose I bought it for, might was well try to beat a bear with the butt. I always wanted to try the 41. I had a 357 Blackhawk when I was younger and loved it. 41 is good middle ground.

 

[stagpanther]

This is the very gun I was asked by the film crew of a popular history TV series (which will go nameless for liability's sake) to point right at the lead camera man at the end of filming. I refused, even though I knew it was empty of rounds. Bit of an argument ensued but I still refused. The episode never aired as far as I know (hint hint Alec).

Did my own trigger job and it has a very nice trigger pull--but to be honest I think I was lucky I didn't botch it, it has a pretty complicated assembly which has to go together just right.

 

[44 AMP]

If you are talking about a Ruger Blachawk new model I don't think the mechanism is complicated. And, EVERY gun has to go together "just right" now doesn't it??

Either way, until someone chambers a Blackhawk in .350 Legend, its off topic in this thread.

 

[jetinteriorguy]

An there you go tempting me. I was looking at prices last night. New Blackhawk in 41 runs about mid-$700. Not a Super Blackhawk. I have other projects and things I am doing, but keeping it on my radar.

This was my first .41 mag, I traded it in on my 6” Model 57 no dash and still have it today after 38 years. I’ve also added a 4” model 57 and a Henry BBS.

 

[USAF Ret]

If you are talking about a Ruger Blachawk new model I don't think the mechanism is complicated. And, EVERY gun has to go together "just right" now doesn't it??

Either way, until someone chambers a Blackhawk in .350 Legend, its off topic in this thread.

Sorry for the rabbit trail. Mark mentioned 41 Magnum for hunting.

 

[Scorch]

My question would be "do you want something barely adequate or do you want something capable"?

 

[mehavey]

"do you want something barely adequate or do you want something capable"?

It all depends on whether you believe a 180gr 357Mag chest-shot
at contact velocities -- at 200 yards -- is adequate.

 

[44 AMP]

"do you want something barely adequate or do you want something capable"?

Anything adequate to do a specific function (even if barely) must be capable.