Your Most Unorthodox Load?
- Thread starter Brian Pfleuger
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I got it from a friend, DWFan. I've only seen it in print in the 45th Edition (1970) Lyman manual. Haven't set up my chrono in awhile but I'm guessing I get about 1400-1450fps from my Guide Gun. Feedback from deer and hogs has been very positive. 
Dunno what kind of velocity your buddy's getting but meat in the freezer beats numbers on a page.
I know it's not terribly unorthodox but that's how I roll, I don't look for excitement at my reloading bench.
Dunno what kind of velocity your buddy's getting but meat in the freezer beats numbers on a page. I know it's not terribly unorthodox but that's how I roll, I don't look for excitement at my reloading bench.
WSMs
I use cast bullets 145gr in 7WSM and 170 gr in the 300 WSM coated with Lee liquid alox, no sizing, primers are usually Wolf or Remi std rifle. The propellat is Alcan AL-7(long discontinued, but Ive got a bg can of it left over from lead shot duckin' days). 10 to 12 grains and the cast bullet gives a moderate velocity, I havnt chronpd but I thihk about 100-1300 Fps. 26 yd groups are abt 1- 1/2 " and they dont kick or scorch the barrel. Better still no leading and really cheap. OOverall cost not counting propane or white gas is probably less than $.04 apiece. Alittle tedious to load, but more fun to shoot than the ball of fire, kickin' game loads. Ive got ot try 'em on ground hogs when I get done with the latest project...
I use cast bullets 145gr in 7WSM and 170 gr in the 300 WSM coated with Lee liquid alox, no sizing, primers are usually Wolf or Remi std rifle. The propellat is Alcan AL-7(long discontinued, but Ive got a bg can of it left over from lead shot duckin' days). 10 to 12 grains and the cast bullet gives a moderate velocity, I havnt chronpd but I thihk about 100-1300 Fps. 26 yd groups are abt 1- 1/2 " and they dont kick or scorch the barrel. Better still no leading and really cheap. OOverall cost not counting propane or white gas is probably less than $.04 apiece. Alittle tedious to load, but more fun to shoot than the ball of fire, kickin' game loads. Ive got ot try 'em on ground hogs when I get done with the latest project...
Brian Pfleuger
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Rogn,
You should try TrailBoss for those reduced loads, when your current powder is gone.
You should try TrailBoss for those reduced loads, when your current powder is gone.
Dr. Strangelove
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9mm
Full case of Pyrodex P
115gr XTP
Shot fine, but wouldn't cycle the action. Very accurate, but also very dirty.
Full case of Pyrodex P
115gr XTP
Shot fine, but wouldn't cycle the action. Very accurate, but also very dirty.
Magnum Wheel Man
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Little, medium & big...
got a 17 K Hornet barrel for my Contender... any loads in that are "unique"
been doing some expiriements with a fast twist Hornet got both a 6" - 8 shot revolver & a Ruger 77 22 Hornet with 1 in 9" twist barrels... have been loading up to 68 grain bullets in the Hornet cases with good luck...
been loading 32 & 38 S&W cartridges with Trailboss & lead round balls for old black powder revolvers...
right now I've been loading "African safari hot" loads for my Guide gun in 45-70... loaded a box of 50 last night that used almost 1/3 of a pound of powder... quite a change from my 0.7 grains of Trailboss I load in my 32 S&W round ball loads
got a 17 K Hornet barrel for my Contender... any loads in that are "unique"
been doing some expiriements with a fast twist Hornet got both a 6" - 8 shot revolver & a Ruger 77 22 Hornet with 1 in 9" twist barrels... have been loading up to 68 grain bullets in the Hornet cases with good luck...
been loading 32 & 38 S&W cartridges with Trailboss & lead round balls for old black powder revolvers...
right now I've been loading "African safari hot" loads for my Guide gun in 45-70... loaded a box of 50 last night that used almost 1/3 of a pound of powder... quite a change from my 0.7 grains of Trailboss I load in my 32 S&W round ball loads
Not unorthodox but how many are loading for 25-20?
Load plastic shot shell cups in my 357 and 38s w/just a primer because I can't get the plastic bullets anywhere.
Tried an experiment of loading 45 ACP 230 gr hardball ammo backwards for HD loads. Couldn't hit paper at 25', tried 220 gr LSWC and that was much better.
Neighbors dog load when it wouldn't stop chasing our chickens. Dump the shot in a 10 gauge shell. Fill with dried feed corn and fill up case with melted bacon fat. Makes the rump of white dog turn mostly black, sends him home in a hurry with no lasting damage and he never came back to chase another chicken. Barrel smelled like popcorn and bacon. Easy to clean by running a cleaning rag down the barrel. Loved that smell combination.
Load plastic shot shell cups in my 357 and 38s w/just a primer because I can't get the plastic bullets anywhere.
Tried an experiment of loading 45 ACP 230 gr hardball ammo backwards for HD loads. Couldn't hit paper at 25', tried 220 gr LSWC and that was much better.
Neighbors dog load when it wouldn't stop chasing our chickens. Dump the shot in a 10 gauge shell. Fill with dried feed corn and fill up case with melted bacon fat. Makes the rump of white dog turn mostly black, sends him home in a hurry with no lasting damage and he never came back to chase another chicken. Barrel smelled like popcorn and bacon. Easy to clean by running a cleaning rag down the barrel. Loved that smell combination.
troy_mclure
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.44mag case full of pyrodex with a rainier 300gr bullet. fired this thru my 7.5" ruger sbh.
verry mild but suprisingly accurate at 25yd.
verry mild but suprisingly accurate at 25yd.
Crankylove
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200 & 250 grain .358 diameter bullets (from my .358 Winchester) loaded in .38 Special cases with a charge of Trailboss.
I'll probably feel like I was hit by an anvil. My gun is a NM pistol put together by the boys at Fort Benning USAMU. Not sure I would do that to that old gun, its been in my hands since 1972 and I bought it from the original owner a Commander on the Navy pistol team.
My backwards bullet trick was also load the first one by hand and follow up with hardball because they wouldn't feed. I was also 35 years younger and was still doing stupid stuff after reading about somebody else trying it and claiming it was a good idea...it wasn't. I'm more conservative in my old age and I was old enough I should have know better back then but oh well.
bizarre loads
JHP copper shells filled with epoxy resin. 3345 fps from a 6" .357 Dan Wesson, 2400 fps from a 4" HK USP40- still had enough momentum to cycle the action properly, ludicrously low recoil.
I forget the specifics, but a 3/4" dia dowel rod trimmed to about .725" diameter, muzzle loaded into 12ga 870 loaded with a shell that had the rifled slug removed. In case of vampires, of course. do NOT use on resiliant targets- the wood bounces, and it's moving at bullet velocities- and has no directional stability.
.22cb shorts, with most of the lead trimmed off the nose- you'd think lighter weight would mean more velocity, but it was tyhe opposite. Came to figure out there was not enough backpressure to burn the powder completely. about 350-450 fps with maybe 10gr of lead. Sounded about as loud as a pellet gun of similar ballistics.
JHP copper shells filled with epoxy resin. 3345 fps from a 6" .357 Dan Wesson, 2400 fps from a 4" HK USP40- still had enough momentum to cycle the action properly, ludicrously low recoil.
I forget the specifics, but a 3/4" dia dowel rod trimmed to about .725" diameter, muzzle loaded into 12ga 870 loaded with a shell that had the rifled slug removed. In case of vampires, of course.
do NOT use on resiliant targets- the wood bounces, and it's moving at bullet velocities- and has no directional stability. .22cb shorts, with most of the lead trimmed off the nose- you'd think lighter weight would mean more velocity, but it was tyhe opposite. Came to figure out there was not enough backpressure to burn the powder completely. about 350-450 fps with maybe 10gr of lead. Sounded about as loud as a pellet gun of similar ballistics.
sc928porsche
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I load 45-120 with H-4895. Just make sure that your replica is built to handle it.
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7.9 gr. of HS7 (no longer available) 115 gr RN bullet in 9mm Luger for use in an UZI. Chrono'd at 1550 fps. with 16" barrel.
7.9 gr. of HS7 (no longer available) 115 gr RN bullet in 9mm Luger for use in an UZI. Chrono'd at 1550 fps. with 16" barrel.
IHMSA BB load in .30 Carbine 10" T/C barrel:
165 SIL RCBS cast bullet
16.5 grains Reloder 7, F205M
1500 fps, 99% effective on BB rams.
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165 SIL RCBS cast bullet
16.5 grains Reloder 7, F205M
1500 fps, 99% effective on BB rams.
CAUTION: The above post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.
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troy_mclure
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this is a good thread.
now that i have .457 round balls im going to make me a few 2 and 3 ball .45/70 loads.
now that i have .457 round balls im going to make me a few 2 and 3 ball .45/70 loads.