Virgina Tech shooting 20+ dead

fisherman66

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I'd post the story, but this is at the bottom of the page

"Copyright 2007 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report."

I guess gun control doesn't work. Wish there was a CCW on campus.
 

RedneckFur

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I just heard on the radio that 17 were injured and 1 was dead. Post your link, I'd like to read that story myself. Either my radio station or CNN made a mistake.
 

Slugthrower

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There are only 17 with injuries and one dead at this time. Not all of the 17 have been shot, some injuries are self inflicted in their attempts to escape.

A potential suspect in this shooting rampage is one William Morva. It is believed that this person also has an accomplice.

Fox News is so far the most accurate as of this moment, MSN/NBC is way off , I would disregard anything that they have reported at this time.
 

Capt. Charlie

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According to both CNN and Fox, as of 12:35 pm EDT, the confirmed death toll is now at 22, and may yet continue to rise. There are 21 injured. The shooter reportedly is dead. No motive is known.
 
Virginia Tech Shooting

How do college students protect theirself from something like this when we are not allowed to carry guns on campus?

CNN Reporting:

• NEW: Police chief says at least 20 people are dead, some of them students
• University reporting that a suspected shooter is in custody, another sought
• AP: 1 dead, 1 wounded in first reported shooting on Virginia Tech campus
• Student describes situation as "mayhem"; says 2 students jumped from window


(CNN) -- The Virginia Tech police chief said at least 20 people were killed in twin shootings on the Blacksburg campus Monday morning.

"Some victims were shot in a classroom," Chief Wendell Flinchum said, adding that the gunman was dead.

"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said university President Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified."

The attacks mark the worst school shooting incident since 1999 when Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris killed 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado.

A hospital spokeswoman told The Associated Press that 17 Virginia Tech students were being treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries.

Sharon Honaker at the Carilion New River Valley Medical Center told CNN that four patients had been transported there, one in critical condition.

One person was killed and others were wounded at multiple locations inside a dormitory about 7:15 a.m., Flinchum said. Two hours later, another shooting at Norris Hall, an engineering building, resulted in multiple casualties, the university reported. (Watch police, ambulances hustle to the scene )

The first reported shooting occurred at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a co-ed dormitory that houses 895 students. The dormitory, one of the largest residence halls on the 2,600-acre campus, is located near the drill field and stadium.

Amie Steele, editor-in-chief of the campus newspaper, said one of her reporters at the dormitory reported "mass chaos."

The reporter said there were "lots of students running around, going crazy, and the police officers were trying to settle everyone down and keep everything under control," according to Steele.

Kristyn Heiser said she was in class about 9:30 a.m. when she and her classmates saw about six gun-wielding police officers run by a window.

"We were like, 'What's going on?' Because this definitely is a quaint town where stuff doesn't really happen. It's pretty boring here," said Heiser during a phone interview as she sat on her classroom floor.

Student Matt Waldron said he did not hear the gunshots because he was listening to music, but he heard police sirens and saw officers hiding behind trees with their guns drawn.

"They told us to get out of there so we ran across the drill field as quick as we could," he said.

Waldron described the scene on campus as "mayhem." (Watch a student's recording of police responding to loud bangs )

"It was kind of scary," he said. "These two kids I guess had panicked and jumped out of the top story window and the one kid broke his ankle and the other girl was not in good shape just lying on the ground."

Madison Van Duyne said she and her classmates in a media writing class were on "lockdown" in their classrooms. They were huddled in the middle of the classroom, writing stories about the shootings and posting them online.

The university is updating its 26,000 students through e-mails, and an Internet webcam is broadcasting live pictures of the campus.

The shootings came three days after a bomb threat Friday forced the cancellation of classes in three buildings, WDBJ in Roanoke reported. Also, the 100,000-square-foot Torgersen Hall was evacuated April 2 after police received a written bomb threat, The Roanoke Times reported.

After the Monday shootings, students were instructed to stay indoors and away from windows, police at the university said.

"A gunman is loose on campus. Stay in buildings until further notice. Stay away from all windows," read a warning from the university.

"Virginia Tech has canceled all classes. Those on campus are asked to remain where they are, lock their doors and stay away from windows. Persons off campus are asked not to come to campus," a statement on the university Web site said.

Copyright 2007 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.
 
VT's director of security was just on WTOP news radio in Washington DC, about 15 minutes ago. At that time he said that there were at least 20 dead.
 

Harry Callahan

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Get ready, here we go...

The networks will undoubtedly dive right in with the standard "we need more gun control!" BS, and we'll have to pick through the misinformation which will be reported and we'll have to try to reitterate, yet again, why more gun control would not have prevented this.:barf:
 

Capt. Charlie

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Seconds ago, from the White House: "There is a right to bear arms, but the laws must be followed". (From Fox News TV live, no link.)
 

fisherman66

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Government vs Darwin...

Seems Darwin wins again. The laws of man come second to the laws of nature. What's the government so afraid of, a revolution? Maybe their fear is justified.
 

badbob

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Matt Kazee, a student on the VT campus, reports at least 34 dead. Most of the shootings happened 1/2 block from ROTC building. There have coincidentally been 4 bomb threats called in this week for this same street. Place has been crawling with cops all week. May mean something or nothing.

badbob
 

atblis

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Yep

I believe legally a CCW permit is valid on Virginia Tech campus. University students like to think that the're enlightened and not sheep. Most would say they would never consider carrying something "evil" like a gun. Most probably think it is illegal (or should be). Lambs to the slaughter.
 

rellascout

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No CCW on VA Tech campus. I live in VA. No VA campuses allow CCW.

This is very sad day my thoughts go out to the dead, the injuried their friends and their family.

Simply a tragedy.
 

JAXX

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When I was listening to this reporting going on this morning on MSNBC, the reporters were all over every law enforcement official they could talk to to find out "How do we keep these dangerous weapons out of PEOPLES hands, so that tragedies such as this are prevented in the future"? They were so wrapped up and had already convinced themselves that this was the result of an automatic weapon. Then initial reports came in that the weapon retrieved was a 9MM pistol. So now, the 9MM will be viewed as the criminal in the case, not the shooter.
 

atblis

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Ccw

CCW is not illegal on campus.

They can ask you to leave, and then if you don't...trespassing.

However, if you are a student or an employee you could be subject to disciplinary action (read as fired or expelled) by the University.

So yes, effectively it is banned. Who wants to put in a few years of work, and then get expelled without getting your degree. Then again, who wants to be lined up against a wall and executed?
 
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