Training Without Shooting

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Mainah

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Can anyone recommend training exercises that don't involve shooting? I've decided to save the ammo I have until I can afford to invest in a reloading system.
 
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rc

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Yes, take your finger gun, point it at the TV and say pew, pu, pu, pew then hold your finger to your lips and blow.

More seriously, you should get a pellet gun. CO2 pellet pistols can be very accurate inside a garage and will help with sight alignment and trigger control. The Crossman revolver series is actually pretty good. Not a huge fan of the ones with the small clips but the break open guns that load a 10 shot clip are pretty good with decent single action triggers.
 
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DMK

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If you conceal carry, just practicing drawing from concealment, extending out and pressing the trigger would not be a waste of time at all.

(with an empty gun of course!)


It doesn't matter how accurate you are if you can't get the gun out in time to be helpful.
 
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TunnelRat

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DMK said:
If you conceal carry, just practicing drawing from concealment, extending out and pressing the trigger would not be a waste of time at all.

(with an empty gun of course!)


It doesn't matter how accurate you are if you can't get the gun out in time to be helpful.
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If you have a shot timer you can set par times so that when you draw you have an idea of the time even without shots.


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zincwarrior

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Want to not suck, or be good? Dry fire 30 minutes a day every day. Bill drill, transitions, movement, targets at different distances, 20-50 mag changes, etc.
 
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ThesNazud

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They make some decent Airsoft replicas that are good for training. Now, all things considered it isn't the same thing, but does at least provide SOME form of trigger control training. You can also fairly cheaply by a trap to shoot them into as they are reusable BBs, it does save some money. I got one that is a replica Glock and everything functions the same, it was still a good $40+ purchase, but has allowed me to work on drawing for the initial shot out of my holster, but it's only a single shot spring air...
 
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Mike38

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Dry fire, dry fire, dry fire. Manipulate the trigger making certain that the sight picture is not upset in the least bit. Then dry fire some more.
 
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Pahoo

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Choices

I have one of these set-ups that I bought at a discount. I use it for our classes and refresher for me when I can't go to the range. The pretty blue color is not as intimidating as some others. It is a good training aid. Also, out hunter Ed district acquired a set of long guns that cast a laser beam. I believe they are made by Daisey. I don't have that. Now then. a bit more dangerous but you can take a pellet pistol and load a short section of Q-tip and shoot it into a carboard box but yo will have to so come homework on this one. ...... :rolleyes:


https://www.amazon.com/LaserLyte-trainer-familiar-RESETTING-training/dp/B01L450L62?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Be Safe !!!
 
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Jim567

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I have a heavy metal BB gun with trigger pull and grip emulating a double stack 9 mm.
I leave it on my workbench that is next to the garage door which is almost always open when I’m home.
Once or twice a day I will pick it up and dry fire it at items in my back and side yard.
I was very pleasantly surprised my last trip to my friends range and how much it improved my target acquisition and accuracy on steel targets with my Sig M11 A1 and P220.
 
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Mainah

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I inherited a kit-built .45 flintlock pistol years ago and I've been using it for dry fire practice randomly during the day in my home office. I've never actually fired it, and it's a safe and quick choice because I don't have any blackpowder loading components.

Obviously it doesn't prep me completely for a modern gun. However I feel like holding all that extra weight while working on trigger pull and sight alignment has helped. But I could be wrong, thoughts?
 
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Aguila Blanca

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Mainah said:
I inherited a kit-built .45 flintlock pistol years ago and I've been using it for dry fire practice randomly during the day in my home office. I've never actually fired it, and it's a safe and quick choice because I don't have any blackpowder loading components.

Obviously it doesn't prep me completely for a modern gun. However I feel like holding all that extra weight while working on trigger pull and sight alignment has helped. But I could be wrong, thoughts?
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"Muscle memory"

The utility of dry firing, in my opinion and in my experience, is to train your muscles to properly align the sights and manipulate the trigger. If you dry fire with some firearm so radically different in size, shape, and weight from your actual self-defense pistol, I respectfully submit that you are training yourself to miss with the "real" gun.

History: The original M1911 had a "straight" mainspring housing running up the back of the frame. Feedback from soldiers (who were, at that time, accustomed to revolvers) was that it didn't point "right." They were generally hitting lower than where they thought they were aiming. So, when the M1911A1 modifications came along in the late 1920s, one of the changes was the arched mainspring housing. Its purpose was to better replicate the natural point of aim for soldiers transitioning from revolvers.

Personally, I prefer the straight MSH and I swap out any arched MSHs that come into my possession. I know of other people who do the opposite.

I have a friend, also a 1911 shooter, who used to keep an airsoft 1911 in his garage workshop. Any time he walked past the bench where the pistol resides, he would grab it and take a snap shot at some target in the shop. His goal was to improve his target acquisition and muscle memory.

I just don't see how dry firing an 18th century dueling pistol could be of any help in training to use a Glock, 1911, Sig, or whatever.
 
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Pahoo

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Ouch !!!

I inherited a kit-built .45 flintlock pistol years ago and I've been using it for dry fire practice randomly during the day in my home office.
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Ouch !!!

Do the still make Cap-Guns or even air-soft guns ???

Be Safe !!!
 
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FireForged

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I am not real sure what the OP is trying to accomplish if he is dry firing a flint lock. Unless he is planning to carry a flint lock, you may as well be pointing a banana.

I have a very simply philosophy. Get some training and if you feel the need to be a better shooter, seek more training and shoot more. I have never sat around dry firing a weapon and probably never will.

I have always felt that dry firing quickly gets to a point of diminished returns. I think that alot of this dry fire practice is simply doing "something" for the sake of doing it. I also feel that many people do it because they want to and they probably like how it makes them feel (Industrious).

Can dry fire be of a benefit? Sure, but so can sitting in your driveway for three hours practicing putting the key in the ignition of your car. In a very short time you are likely going to need scientific instruments to measure the gains( if any)

Pulling the trigger on a handgun is not rocket science and probably should not be treated as such. A person can easily learn their trigger( it doesnt take long) and a person can very easily pay attention to the particular nuances of their gun when training with live fire.

To me.. pulling the trigger does not need to be "muscle memory", its needs to be a very deliberate and thoughtful action which is precipitated in the moment as a result of a very specific set of conditions.

There are plenty of things which may make all the difference in a self defense action. That said, I doubt that the expected gains from dry fire is going to be one of those things. Could it be.. I guess it could.

Can dry fire be of benefit? Yes, I believe it can.
Is that benefit worth the time and effort? Not to me
 
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