No Super-Guns Exist.
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Limeyfellow
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A 7mm magnum is not what I call a supergun.
Now this is more like it.
Now this is more like it.
Your joking right??? You guys kill me, I was the guy in the PA woods hunting whitetail with a 30/30 lever with Iron sights, sometimes with a 3x to 9x scope and get funny looks. I would come out with a deer , while these nimrods who go hunting with 30/06, 7mm, or 308 bolt actions with freakin sniper scopes would come out empty handed. Out of 6 deer all but one dropped with one shot, the one that didn't I took a stupid shot and hit him in the gut, but I tracked him and found him about 100 yard away, bleeding to death. Most of my shots were anywhere from 50 to 100 yards sometimes thru branches. 20 yards....you should be able to anything with any rifle at 20 yards. When I was 8, I could hit tin cans with a BB gun at that distance. By the way I know an old man that would poach deer with a spotlight and a .22 rifle. It can be done with one shot, but it takes talent.
Penn Deer
Your Pennsylvania deer do not have ready access to BALCO products. I suppose a .30-30 would do. Our California deer would put a whooping on you if took a shot at them with such a light weapon. We have guys here taking to the woods with .30-378 Weatherby Magnums going after them. They ususally carry a couple of hundred rounds each, so a confrontation with a deer should go well. They might even get lucky and catch it with multiple shooters in a good crossfire. Come hunt our deer if you've got the guts.
Your Pennsylvania deer do not have ready access to BALCO products. I suppose a .30-30 would do. Our California deer would put a whooping on you if took a shot at them with such a light weapon. We have guys here taking to the woods with .30-378 Weatherby Magnums going after them. They ususally carry a couple of hundred rounds each, so a confrontation with a deer should go well. They might even get lucky and catch it with multiple shooters in a good crossfire. Come hunt our deer if you've got the guts.
Varmint Eviscerator
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naw..
the best is my spitball gun, sends a .2 grain ball at a scorching 100fps,now thats a super gun, you guys dont have nuthin'
Chase
took an elk at 2000yrds with it yesterday as a matter of fact
the best is my spitball gun, sends a .2 grain ball at a scorching 100fps,now thats a super gun, you guys dont have nuthin'
Chase
took an elk at 2000yrds with it yesterday as a matter of fact
I believe this article sums it up nicely.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/adequate_elk_cartridges.htm
http://www.chuckhawks.com/adequate_elk_cartridges.htm
exoduster16
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PUMPKIN CHUNKIN......HELL YEAH!!! That's some fun stuff. Potato guns anyone? LOL
Death from Afar
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A very eccentric friend of mine- who has an awesome machine gun collection- Vickers, Maxims, MG08's etc- is heavilly into Medieval Siege engines (!!) , and for laughs has an life sized Trebuchet in his back paddock. He entertains us- after a few beers of course- by flinging dead sheep :barf: or paint pails filled with concrete 100's of yards. His next move is to make a ballista to throw car axles a kilometre or so....
:barf: or paint pails filled with concrete 100's of yards. His next move is to make a ballista to throw car axles a kilometre or so....Short Magnums
What is the point of a short magnum rifle round? I don't mean to insult anyone who has a rifle chambered for a short magnum round, I'm just asking because I honestly have no idea of the benefits of a short mag. I read that they are supposed to be more accurate that longer magnum rounds, is this really true? Also, an article I came across said that short mags give the benefit of working in a shorter action. What does this mean? Does it just mean you don't have to work the bolt over as long a distance because the round is shorter? That just seems like a silly argument for the short mag.
What is the point of a short magnum rifle round? I don't mean to insult anyone who has a rifle chambered for a short magnum round, I'm just asking because I honestly have no idea of the benefits of a short mag. I read that they are supposed to be more accurate that longer magnum rounds, is this really true? Also, an article I came across said that short mags give the benefit of working in a shorter action. What does this mean? Does it just mean you don't have to work the bolt over as long a distance because the round is shorter? That just seems like a silly argument for the short mag.
Wait Till You See Next Round Of Short Mags
They are currently working on a super, micro magnum. It has the profile of a frisbee. It is almost flat and launches a small bullet at a kazzilion feet per second. The bolt of the rifle needs to only be moved a quarter of an inch to cycle a round. The only drawback is that the scope rings have to be very tall.
They are currently working on a super, micro magnum. It has the profile of a frisbee. It is almost flat and launches a small bullet at a kazzilion feet per second. The bolt of the rifle needs to only be moved a quarter of an inch to cycle a round. The only drawback is that the scope rings have to be very tall.
I've seen that prototype round. The case is 10" in diameter (at the base) x 2.25" long....firing a 7 grain, 1.2 mm bullet (0.050", to be exact). It's called the .05 WSSSSSSSSSSM. Quite a scorching round. Requires 16,100 grains of powder, for a normal load. Alas, however, they are having problems with it. First, as roy said, the scope rings have to be rather high. Next, the receiver is a bit bulky...at least in width. Resizing the case is a bit tough with a hand press. Extraction and ejection is a bit of a problem. Finally, the recoil is just a bit on the stout side.
Oh well, they'll sort it out. Can't wait to get one.
Oh well, they'll sort it out. Can't wait to get one.
Cowled_Wolfe
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What about the Iraqi supergun?
Varmint Eviscerator
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In all seriousness, a friend is willing to sell a browning a bolt in the 325wsm, does it have feeding probs? I know its really accurate(1moa) but aside from its accuracy and power what else is there to know
Chase
Chase
Next Big Step
Up until now small arms cartridges have been cylindrical shaped. They have been stretched and shrunk. We are reaching the point of having done just about everything possible. But a new development will give experimentors something new to work with.
The next big thing is square cartridge cases. Think of the possibilities and advantages. Reloaders won't have to worry about their cases rolling off their bench. The recievers of hunting rifles can be made flat. Imagine the ease of scope mounting. Once square has run its course we could look forward octagon shaped ammo and the triangle can't be that far off.
The possibilities are endless.
Up until now small arms cartridges have been cylindrical shaped. They have been stretched and shrunk. We are reaching the point of having done just about everything possible. But a new development will give experimentors something new to work with.
The next big thing is square cartridge cases. Think of the possibilities and advantages. Reloaders won't have to worry about their cases rolling off their bench. The recievers of hunting rifles can be made flat. Imagine the ease of scope mounting. Once square has run its course we could look forward octagon shaped ammo and the triangle can't be that far off.
The possibilities are endless.
Death from Afar
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Aside from the excessive recoil, massive muzzle blast, short barrel life and expensive ammo?