No Mo' SCOPE!!!!
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Hog Buster
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Mine was mounted on the left side of the receiver . Williams I think, but it might have been a Lyman. It's been so long ago I don't remember for sure.
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Lawyer Daggit
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Great to hear your discovery. Guys today seem to have reached the view that they cannot hit a darned thing without a scope- yet our forebears did perfectly well without them.
On a big game rifle I think one if fine without a scope out to about 200 yards or so. Being just on the plus side of 50 when shooting rabbits my eyes tend to demand a scope over 50 yards or so.
The balance of some guns, particularly lever actions and single shots has to be experienced to be believed without a scope.
I recently bought a secondhand MLR (Miroku badged BLR) and am likely to fit it with a peep sight.
On a big game rifle I think one if fine without a scope out to about 200 yards or so. Being just on the plus side of 50 when shooting rabbits my eyes tend to demand a scope over 50 yards or so.
The balance of some guns, particularly lever actions and single shots has to be experienced to be believed without a scope.
I recently bought a secondhand MLR (Miroku badged BLR) and am likely to fit it with a peep sight.
I was swinging it and pointing raising and lowering it like a little kid with a brand spankin' new Red Ryder on Christmas morn'... Sorts felt irresponsible and immature for a moment but shrugged that off sayin' "Man this thing feels like a totally different and new rifle..." Me sho likey mo betta now!
Brent
Brent
bamaranger
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Rules for lever rifles
Here are the Commandments for lever rifles.
Thou shalt not put a 'scope on thy lever rifle.
One shall remove all white line spacers on thy lever rifle so as not to offend me.
A stainless lever rifle is an abomination to my will.
Here are the Commandments for lever rifles.
Thou shalt not put a 'scope on thy lever rifle.
One shall remove all white line spacers on thy lever rifle so as not to offend me.
A stainless lever rifle is an abomination to my will.
My son has a 4x Nikon on his 94/30-30 and loves it. I recently received my great Uncle's 94/32 spec. Eyes really do not do the buckhorn justice. Do not think I will have it drilled and tapped, the top eject means offset scope mounts. I am not concerned about the 'value' loss should I scope it. Gun is mine until death or the blue hats do us part. (Could be the same, will cross that bridge when I get there)
Probably will find a Lyman or Marble Arms (NOT Marbles) tang sight. Or maybe a scout type mount. We will see...
Probably will find a Lyman or Marble Arms (NOT Marbles) tang sight. Or maybe a scout type mount. We will see...
bamaranger
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oh gosh
Geez youp, its yours and all, but don't drill a 94/32, please.
Tangs give you the longest sight radius, but a peep/aperature is not much worse. And I agree, buckhorn's are the pits, no matter how traditional. Is the 94 you own pre drilled/tapped, for an aperture/peep?
Rear notch and front bead sights are now starting to give me fits as well.
I've replaced most all my lever and auto carbines w/ peeps and either ashley front posts, or modified the beads, and still can shoot them acceptably, for a while longer anyhow. I've thought about a sourdough, but have not done it.
I modify the beads by taking a fine, small file and put a SLIGHT up slanted face
(say 30 degrees) on them. This seems to catch the light better, esp if there's any sun, and eliminates the wishy/washy undefined look of a rounded one. You may not wanna do that to a vintage 94, but it'd beat drilling it in my book.
Geez youp, its yours and all, but don't drill a 94/32, please.
Tangs give you the longest sight radius, but a peep/aperature is not much worse. And I agree, buckhorn's are the pits, no matter how traditional. Is the 94 you own pre drilled/tapped, for an aperture/peep?
Rear notch and front bead sights are now starting to give me fits as well.
I've replaced most all my lever and auto carbines w/ peeps and either ashley front posts, or modified the beads, and still can shoot them acceptably, for a while longer anyhow. I've thought about a sourdough, but have not done it.
I modify the beads by taking a fine, small file and put a SLIGHT up slanted face
(say 30 degrees) on them. This seems to catch the light better, esp if there's any sun, and eliminates the wishy/washy undefined look of a rounded one. You may not wanna do that to a vintage 94, but it'd beat drilling it in my book.
Art Eatman
Staff in Memoriam
I wear trifocals. Hassle factor when using irons. My cure came from IPSC days. (Daze?) I had the lens lab glue an extra small lens at the upper inside corner of my sighting-eye lens. The correction is that for arms length, instrument panels, etc. Perfect for iron sights. The sights are sharp, the target has a very slight blur.
But when you hunt in Ma Bell country, irons generally just ain't the best deal.
But when you hunt in Ma Bell country, irons generally just ain't the best deal.
Bama,
Doan worry, be happy
I found fair priced Lyman No2 at MGW.
http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/PROD/winchester-model-94-accessories/U345310810
It is on the third wave of improvements. Working on a couple of stocks first.
Doan worry, be happy
I found fair priced Lyman No2 at MGW.
http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/PROD/winchester-model-94-accessories/U345310810
It is on the third wave of improvements. Working on a couple of stocks first.
I know this is showing my ignorance, but what type of sights are "Tang" and "Buck horn"?
Also, do you still have to "Sight in" open sights like you do a scope?
I only have a shotgun with bead sights and a .22 with a scope, so I don't have a lot of experience with iron sights.
Which is something that I will be rectifying.
Also, do you still have to "Sight in" open sights like you do a scope?
I only have a shotgun with bead sights and a .22 with a scope, so I don't have a lot of experience with iron sights.
Which is something that I will be rectifying.
Well, sights usually have a range of height adjustment. Most are in at least a dove tail groove and can be drifted left or right if needed.
The open sight is much more "shooter specific" as in the way you mount the gun and set your head to look down the rifle. Tang sights, in the case of lever actions, are a flip up peep sight with much more elevation adjustment that is mounted behind the hammer on the receiver tang...
Buck horns are the regular open sight with a curved view to the rear blade ie: buckhorn shaped...
Brent
The open sight is much more "shooter specific" as in the way you mount the gun and set your head to look down the rifle. Tang sights, in the case of lever actions, are a flip up peep sight with much more elevation adjustment that is mounted behind the hammer on the receiver tang...
Buck horns are the regular open sight with a curved view to the rear blade ie: buckhorn shaped...
Brent
Art Eatman
Staff in Memoriam
A sight mounted on the tang gives a much longer sight radius. Like the difference between a snubby revolver and one with a 6" barrel.
The peephole makes it easier for consistency in the sight picture. The human eye/brain readily can tell if something is centered in a circle.
As with a scope: The gun is not more accurate. It is easier to shoot accurately.
The peephole makes it easier for consistency in the sight picture. The human eye/brain readily can tell if something is centered in a circle.
As with a scope: The gun is not more accurate. It is easier to shoot accurately.
Doodlebugger45
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Anyone who wants peep sights for their lever action might want to check this site out.
http://skinnersights.com/index.html
http://skinnersights.com/index.html