I carried model 20 Berratta in .25 for 15 years ending in 89 . it was always on my person. I had 2 needs to pull and 0 shots fired. I carried win bb in tip loads as it seemed to penetrate test materials well and always fuctioned. I rotated 3 magazines. Before that I carried Colt .25 pocket auto(was my grand dad's) . Now I carry Astra Cub .22 short nickle version when I CANT pack a real gun.