Cheaper Than Dirt - Pleasant Surprise
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Spats McGee
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I just saw that and had the same reaction. I'd like to see more manufacturers and distributors take that position.
good for them to take a stand
I applaud them for taking a stand but as long as there is panic buying and their shelves remain empty, it doesn't hurt them at all.
I will wait and see if they continue this ban after the panic is over and ammo is sitting on their shelf before it is more than an empty campaign.
Credibility is hard to establish, easy to loose and takes time to regain.
I applaud them for taking a stand but as long as there is panic buying and their shelves remain empty, it doesn't hurt them at all.
I will wait and see if they continue this ban after the panic is over and ammo is sitting on their shelf before it is more than an empty campaign.
Credibility is hard to establish, easy to loose and takes time to regain.
Do you really think the State of New York buys ammo from CTD? I never had to answer a question from them that I was LEO- Not that I'm in NYS.
The fact that they won't ship anything to anyone in New York(or where ever) isn't really the same as saying we won't deal with the government agencies, but will continue to service the average Joe.
None of this really is either here nor there on the anouncement. And I wasn't shopping years ago when CTD may or may not have been price gouging, so I'm not pre-disposed. I just don't like self-back-patting that makes my skin crawl, and that set off my warning alarms.
The fact that they won't ship anything to anyone in New York(or where ever) isn't really the same as saying we won't deal with the government agencies, but will continue to service the average Joe.
None of this really is either here nor there on the anouncement. And I wasn't shopping years ago when CTD may or may not have been price gouging, so I'm not pre-disposed. I just don't like self-back-patting that makes my skin crawl, and that set off my warning alarms.
Shane Tuttle
Staff
While I will most likely never give them my business again, credit must be given where credit is due.
As Jim stated the likeliness NYS has even done business with CTD is nil, the point of the matter is they've established their intent. I'll take it for what it's worth. Having public knowledge of a business refusing to aid in prohibitive governments can, in fact, create a snowball effect. The case of CTD mentioning other businesses doing the same gives anecdotal evidence of that. I hope the momentum picks up.
As Jim stated the likeliness NYS has even done business with CTD is nil, the point of the matter is they've established their intent. I'll take it for what it's worth. Having public knowledge of a business refusing to aid in prohibitive governments can, in fact, create a snowball effect. The case of CTD mentioning other businesses doing the same gives anecdotal evidence of that. I hope the momentum picks up.
Palmetto-Pride
New member
I call BS I don't believe for one second that CTD would turn down a huge order from a government agency that restricts civilians rights, but you beleive what you want....
But what if it's an empty gesture, as Jim pointed out? If they're not filling government contracts already (and I doubt they are), then they lose nothing by doing this.
This isn't a risk or a sacrifice for them. Magpul leaving Colorado is a sacrifice; this is a Facebook missive.
And this isn't the first time they've gotten creative with pricing to capitalize on a tragedy. They did it after Virginia Tech as well.
Shane Tuttle
Staff
Granted, their word doesn't carry much weight. But that's only to those that follow the news of CTD. A select few friends of mine knew what CTD has been pulling these past few years.
My point is the general public will see X, Y, and Z companies are making a sacrifice whether genuine or not, and it could help influence other companies to follow suit. If their "due credit" is given and word is spread they voiced their sacrifice, people could hold them accountable if they renege.
IOW, "CTD, you're making a sacrifice? Great! Happy for you. But if you waver, I....will...remember!"
My point is the general public will see X, Y, and Z companies are making a sacrifice whether genuine or not, and it could help influence other companies to follow suit. If their "due credit" is given and word is spread they voiced their sacrifice, people could hold them accountable if they renege.
IOW, "CTD, you're making a sacrifice? Great! Happy for you. But if you waver, I....will...remember!"
Willie Sutton
Moderator
CTD knows that many of us just think that they are opportunistic bottom feeders (which they are). So they are tossing a sop... but it means zero. They will sell to any private individual, and they likely have a total annual NY Govt. Contract revenue of zero. They would not be competative with ammo or anything else NY buys. This is just weasel-words from pond scum. In my considered opinon, naturally...
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mrbatchelor
New member
Yes, but they're our crazy uncle in the attic pond scum, and family is family. So I'll give them kudos where due.
But I'm still not going to buy anything.
Mike Irwin
Staff
I guess that explains why they ratcheted the price of Magpuls up by a factor of nearly six...
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/MAG-074
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/MAG-074
flyinpolack
New member
CTD are gougers, I can't believe anyone shops with them anymore.
They turn tail every time there is a bit of trouble, & this latest email campaign is damage control, nothing more.
If they wanted to stand by us they could have...
They turn tail every time there is a bit of trouble, & this latest email campaign is damage control, nothing more.
If they wanted to stand by us they could have...
Bartholomew Roberts
Moderator
CTD also donated $100,000 to the Second Amendment Foundation. I don't shop there myself because I feel I can get better products cheaper elsewhere; but it is nice to see them put their money where their mouth is.
leadchucker
New member
Looks like Midway is doing some of the same thing.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02/robert-farago/midway-no-leo-mag-and-ammo-sales-where-civilian-bans-apply/
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02/robert-farago/midway-no-leo-mag-and-ammo-sales-where-civilian-bans-apply/
I don't think it was an empty gesture, as much as taking credit where credit may not be due. If they refuse to deal with the entire state of NY because of NY laws, that's not refusing to deal with a government passing laws they don't agree with.. that's refusing to do business in a state they don't want to pay a lawyer for. I suppose the easiest way would be for someone to pretend to be a NY state trooper long enough to go through the checkout process but not actually finish the checkout process, to see if they every ask, and deny you.
Warrior1256
New member
Sure, now that the political wind seems to have shifted somewhat in our favor CTD now switches to our side. Talk about a fair weather friend. Besides, seems to me that CTD is still price gouging during this time.
If they will switch sides once they will do it again.
If they will switch sides once they will do it again.
Onward Allusion
New member
Heh, yeah like agencies buy from CTD directly.
More advertising smoke and mirrors from an unethical organization.
More advertising smoke and mirrors from an unethical organization.
I expect a fair number of agencies use/used CTD, Midway, or purchased weapons from manufacturers such as Olympic and a few years ago Barrett in California.
While boycotts have a poor track record, there are instances where they achieve at least a partial victory. This may be one.
We will see if any of the lunacy is reversed.
While boycotts have a poor track record, there are instances where they achieve at least a partial victory. This may be one.
We will see if any of the lunacy is reversed.