Best 38spl +p self defense ammo ?

[51cskipper]

Glaser slugs

https://shopcorbon.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=9_6&product_id=113

 

[Don P]

Good old wadcutter gets my vote

 

[Aguila Blanca]

Then you have guns like the Armscor 38 special revolvers that are ONLY safe to fire with Armscor produced ammunition of max 158 grain fmj at a max 850 FPS if you read the manual pdf in a literal translation.

It's not necessary to read the manual in translation, because it's available in English. And it doesn't say anything remotely like what you claim it says.

The M200 REVOLVER is chambered for Cal.38 Special cartridges manufactured in accordance with standard industry practice.

Source (Page 9): https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/559399/Armscor_March2020 Theme/Pdf Files/I_-_Manual_-_Revolver.pdf

 

[BandeauRouge]

page 7 the big sheet, it lists caliber as 38 special.. not +p

also using an outdated version of the manual is pretty cheap trick to prove a point you want to prove.. go to the actual company website, open the details page for the m200 and hit the specifications button, it opens a new webpage with an image, here is a link

https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/559399/Armscor_March2020 Theme/images/51261---M200.jpg

caliber 38 special, NOT +p listed, bullet weight 158 grain fmj muzzle velocity of 891 fps

 

[Aguila Blanca]

page 7 the big sheet, it lists caliber as 38 special.. not +p

also using an outdated version of the manual is pretty cheap trick to prove a point you want to prove.. go to the actual company website, open the details page for the m200 and hit the specifications button, it opens a new webpage with an image, here is a link

https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/55939...261---M200.jpg

caliber 38 special, NOT +p listed, bullet weight 158 grain fmj muzzle velocity of 891 fps

Outdated? Cheap trick?

The owner's manual I quoted AND PROVIDED A LINK TO is direct from the Armscor USA web site. That's as up-to-date as it gets. Nowhere in the owner's manual or on the specifications page to which you link does it say that you can only fire Armscor brand ammunition, or that you can't safely fire +P ammunition.

As it happens, I have known the folks at Armscor USA for many years, I have tested many of their firearms, and I have assisted them in editing and translating some of their literature. I also own an M200 and an M206. I'm sure you are aware that +P is not a caliber, it is an indication of ammunition pressure. The owner's manual clearly allows for firing any .38 Special ammunition that's loaded to industry standards.

SAAMI is the industry standard. The SAAMI book for pistol and revolver ammunition lists pressure standards for .38 Special +P ammunition. Therefore, any ammunition that doesn't exceed those pressures is "in accordance with industry standard practice."

Going beyond that, I have had this exact discussion with the folks at Armscor USA. Their position is that the M200/M206 revolvers are safe to fire .38 Special +P, but that doing so on a regular/prolonged basis may result in accelerated wear on the firearm. Which is hardly a surprise, because all manufacturers will tell you the same thing.

 

[Bill DeShivs]

I'm so sick of .38 Special Plus P stuff!

It's like manufacturers have developed a brand new caliber instead of just saying you can shoot hot ammunition in their .28 Special guns. Slick marketing for dull minds.