In reading through this thread, I see the following nearly polar-opposite responses:
kennybs plbg (western NY)
So it seems that the right response depends in large part on where you live.
kennybs plbg (western NY)
and BillCA (Kalifornia)Enough for crying out loud, these were Pre-teens(10-11-12yo). Wasen't there a man or two (or even a woman) in the place responsible enough that would stand up, grab them by the collar and drag them outside one by one(pre-teens huh), what they needed was a swift boot in the butt.
Seems like our responses are conditioned by our environments. I grew up in Indiana, and if I still lived there, Kenny's response would probably work. I also lived in the PRK for 16 years, and if I still lived there, Bill's response would probably be the right response. (In the PRK, self-defense of any kind is considered an infringement on the delicate psyches of criminals, which makes YOU the bad guy.)Let's suppose we decide that 5 pre-teens running amok have pissed you off enough to get up and grab one or two by the collar. You manage to pull the little punks out the door while avoiding flailing arms and feet aimed at your knees or groin. Yell at the others and with luck they scamper out, worried about your threat to call the cops. But your day is only beginning. Even if you call the cops then, they'll claim they were just being noisy when you manhandled them, assaulted them and dragged them outside. You'll be lucky if one of them doesn't accuse you of trying to grope them too. That's the way some of these smart-a** kids work. Expect parents may sue you for "emotional trauma" to their little darlings and psych treatments at $200/hr.
So it seems that the right response depends in large part on where you live.