Wilson Combat 1911 Drop In Parts Question

Joe_Pike

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Anyone can publish an article; it may or may not be factual. What was the author's credibility? What are his credentials?

I'm not here to argue with you. I was here for information. I will go elsewhere, but thanks for playing.
 

Geezerbiker

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It's been a long time since I handled a Norinco M1911. A friend of mine bought one and I taught him how to strip and reassemble it. While we were at it I gave it a quick trigger job with a knife sharpening stone and I gave him the old walnut grips from my Springfield Armory M1911. I didn't see anything that made me think it wasn't a good gun for the money.

A knew a guy that bought a stainless Springfield Armory M1911 and he put in a butt load of expensive upgrade parts on it and sold me the old stuff cheap. I traded off the barrel, but I put the barrel bushing, hammer, grip safety and main spring housing on my black combat model. I polished the stainless parts first and I bought a set of stainless alan head grip screws to go with the Hogue grips.

Anyway a few years ago I put in a drop in stainless Wilson drop in combat grip safety and unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the brand of commander style hammer. As I recall the brand of hammer sounded Swedish and I put in a Chip McCormick drop in sear at the same time. All 3 parts were truly drop in. I was expecting to have to tune the hammer and sear but the worked together like a matched set... I suppose I got lucky.

Anyway it looks and shoots great and no longer digs into my hand. I used to keep bandaids in my shooting bag. Not for the cuts I'd get from the grip safety but to prevent them...

Tony
 
If the springs work, don't replace them. Get spares (preferably Colt) just to have.

About the only thing I replace on 1911s (for myself) is to install a Muenster (sp) ambidextrous safety. For a while, it was the one used by Colt too. The advantage is that the sear pin is extended with a milled slot in the shaft. The slot mated with extended portion and left thumb safety such that the left thunb safety couldn't possibly work itself out (no walking).

Install a tighter bushing (you may have to hand fit it) and maybe even a longer link (if necessary).

Always test the firearm with the ammunition and magazines you intend to use with it.
 
4V50 Gary said:
About the only thing I replace on 1911s (for myself) is to install a Muenster (sp) ambidextrous safety.
I'm not sure on the spelling, either, but I think it's more like Muesckle. And I don't think they exist any more. My recollection is that it disappeared from Brownell's catalog several years ago.

EGW, Ed Brown, and Kimber all have something similar, except they all have extended pads.

https://www.brownells.com/handgun-p...trous-thumb-safeties-for-1911-prod130069.aspx
 

RickB

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Mueschke. They show up on ebay, occasionally.
Crappy pic, but this is a Wilson drop-in on a Colt Delta Elite.
 

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RickB

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Safety is pinned in the depressed position.
Stock, the safety fits smoothly in the static, engaged position, but since I was going to pin it in the depressed position, I did a little grinding and polishing so it was better blended in the depressed /disengaged position, the way you would with a gunsmith-fit beavertail (other than all the work is done to the safety, and the frame is left alone).
 

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101combatvet

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Safety is pinned in the depressed position.
Stock, the safety fits smoothly in the static, engaged position, but since I was going to pin it in the depressed position, I did a little grinding and polishing so it was better blended in the depressed /disengaged position, the way you would with a gunsmith-fit beavertail (other than all the work is done to the safety, and the frame is left alone).
That's the problem with drop-in Beavertail safeties; they still should be fitted to the frame.
 

Hawg

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Just to interject a little information:
* Norinco firearms have not been imported to the USA since the 1990s. Norinco was banned from importing firearms by the US government. Canadians can still get them, but no US imports.
* Norinco used fair quality metal in their 1911s. Not great, just fair.
* Nobody I know uses Norinco 1911s for custom builds just because they are scarce. I've been a smith for 30 years and I have only seen about a dozen of them. More people using Rock Island frames and slides now, or just building up US commercial 1911s.
* Most custom 1911 builders I know use custom frames. If you are goiing to ask a customer to lay out $3000 for a custom 1911, it had better not say Springfield or Taurus on it.
Colt steel is 4140. Norinco steel is 5100 so I'd say it's a little better than fair.
 

Scorch

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Better in what way? More machinable? Higher tensile strength? AISI manual describes 5100 as being a chrome-manganese steel with excellent abrasion resistance. But the SAE manual says it is used for stamped tools like shovels and for bearings, so go figure. 4140 is described as a pre-hardened chrome-molybdenum steel best suited for forgings and stressed uses. Neither of those tell me much in the way of "how good the steel is". What I can tell you about the Norinco pistols is that they have a lot of porosity and they are not made to the 1911 spec (grip screw bushing threads are not threaded to the proper thread, the trigger tunnel is too narrow, the trigger bar tunnel is too shallow), and that when you machine them you find hard and soft spots. In these days of investment cast parts a little porosity doesn't sound too bad, but Colts were always famous for excellent finishes. Either way, the Norinco pistols are fair. And the roll mark on the side of the slide "Model of the 1911" always cracked me up
 
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