Why do guys buy a 44 mag and only shoot light loads in it?

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oneounceload

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Why shoot those loads? Because age and wisdom make people realize that mega-recoil and pain is NOT macho or intelligent, and that only video game commandoes think they are.

It's not a lot different than the folks who buy a small caliber and want to hot-rod to some uber-magnum loading, even if it isn't made for it......

some folks' definition of macho needs rethinking
 

Scout

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"But, I also have a .44 Special. The chicks dig it. Makes me seem all sensitive and caring and what not."

That is so true...
 

crghss

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oilfieldguy, you got that.

If I paid for a truck, pistol or whatever it is mine to due as I please.

Why not have versatility? If you buy a 38 spl or .44 spl then thats it you're maxed out. But with mag's you have choices. Seems to make perfect sense to me. Why limit myself?
 

jad0110

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And .44 Mag revolvers are generally much more plentiful on the market than .44 Special revolvers.

I think this is a really big part of it. I'd love to own a .44 Spl S&W Model 24, but they are so rare compared to the Model 29 that they often cost more. The market for .44 Spl only and .44 Mag revolvers is not the same as .38 Special to .357 Mag. The ratio of 38s to 357s is much closer to parity IMO.

I would gladly buy another S&W 696 if S&W would make it again.

Count me in. I'd rather have a pre-lock 696 though.
 

evenflow80

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Well, the reason I shoot .357 and .44 Mags, as opposed to their special variants, is because I want to be proficient with the heavier loads so that shooting the specials later on will be a piece of cake.

That and nobody that I know of has ever disputed the power of the .357 and .44 Mags. I've never shot anyone thankfully, but people who have experience (like cops and stuff), say that certain bad guys, especially those that are drugged up, etc, can shrug off a lot of Special loads. Not sure about how true that is though.
 

vts

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I am considering getting a Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull. Now I will try the hot loads, but I don't think I will like them much. But, due to the extra weight I can shoot a hot 45 Colt loads and still be more comfortable than if I was shooting hot 45 Colt loads in say a Ruger Vaquero.

And if for some odd reason there are no 45 Colt to be had, I can buy 454
 
B/C 44 special gets the job done and I don't think I have ever seen a 44 special gun in a retail store.
I can see where there is a big market for ultra light/small frame 38 specials, but I just don't know how many want a Redhawk in 44 special. 44 are pretty much hunting guns and why would you want to limit yourself to the possibility of bigger game at no other drawback besides a small one time investment of say $100.
 

brian45auto

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I think Dirty Harry told one of the Patrol Cops in Magnum Force he used loads in his 29 that were equal to a 44 Special.


lite special.....and if you watch the commentary on the movie, it wasn't intended to be written that way.
 
"I'd love to own a .44 Spl S&W Model 24, but they are so rare compared to the Model 29 that they often cost more."

God knows I love my Model 24. Mild mannered and ACCURATE.
 

Stainz

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It's my money. I bought a new '05 2WD Jeep Liberty - 'Boulevard-rated' instead of 'Trail-rated'. My money.

I had two 24's, both 6.5"-ers - the first one a 20yr safe queen 24-3 followed a new Heritage 24, which was gorgeous. That first one aged quickly - the second one stayed pristine - and in the safe. I sold both of them, replacing them with a new 6" 629-6. Sure, if S&W had made a 624, the SS 24, in recent memory, I'd have likely bought one. I even replaced my 4" 629 MG with another new 629-6 in 4". I can enjoy poof loads in a .44 Russian case, mild .44 Specials, or kicker .44 Magnums - as long as I 'brush well between meals'. They can sport wood grips for fun loads; .500 Magnum Hogues for 'real' Magnums - and even be scoped. One has a far better selection in .44 Magnum chambered revolvers than ever was available in .44 Special. This is my rationale for .357 Magnums, too. In that example, try to find a 7 or 8 shot .38!

The most fun is being able to change power levels at will - without having to 'brush between meals'. I effect this by loading .44/.38 Special level loads in their respective Magnum cases. Commercially, this is only possible by finding 'Cowboy' loads in Magnum cases - they are generally 'Special'-ish level. Reloading allows a wide range of choices. YMMV.

Stainz

PS I may drive a soccer mom's ride, but at least I accessorize... got a range bag to match it's interior. My wife's ride... an '05 SRT-4!
 

Lost Sheep

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For Competition or for Carry?

brian45auto said:
munson1 said:
I think Dirty Harry told one of the Patrol Cops in Magnum Force he used loads in his 29 that were equal to a 44 Special.

lite special.....and if you watch the commentary on the movie, it wasn't intended to be written that way.
"light .44 Special loads" were the words spoken to David Soul's character, and it was right after the "Hogan's Alley"-type shooting competition. That left me forever wondering if he was speaking of what he used in the competition or what he habitually used on the job. Of course, being a police-only competition with service weapons, the presumption would be the same ammunition as used on the street. However, San Francisco being San Francisco, I cannot imagine full-power 44 Magnum ammo being used. But then, Harry was a bit of a maverick. So, I am unsure.

In "The Enforcer", he, in response to Tyne Daly's character's asking why he carries such a big gun, simply replied it was because he could hit what he aimed at. The heavy gun with lighter loads simply recoils less and gives the shooter a better chance to get a well-placed bullet. She suggested it was "for the penetration", but then, that wasn't really what she was thinking about.

Why shoot ammunition with lesser-powered cartridges?

I have a friend who bought himself his first revolver and second gun last year. 500 Smith & Wesson.

(Actually that is a little misleading. He is an experienced shooter. He just lived and worked in a gun-restrictive country, as a policeman and security
specialist.)

We loaded up some 300 grain slugs that clock 800 feet per second and some 370 grain slugs that go agout 850 fps. These would be GREAT against a human target. More momentum than a 45 ACP or 45 Colt, but not so fast as to blow through the other person, three walls and a car body.

In a gun as heavy as the S&W 500, such loads recoil hardly at all. They make great practice and familiarization rounds.

Lost Sheep
 

P-990

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I like my .44 Magnum "lite" loads because even "watered down", they kick the stuffing out of most common handgun cartridges power-wise. 240gr LSWC @ 1000-fps from my 629 is easy to shoot, accurate and still more punch than a .45 ACP +P, my .357, a .40 S&W or even a 10mm. Plus, when I want it, I can still throw in full-power ammo @ 1200-1300 fps and really put the punishment on something, should I desire.

It's no different to me than driving around in a pickup everyday with your dog and a coffee. Sure, my Corolla (or a 9mm) would do that too, but when you need to move your friends and furniture, it sure is handy to have a truck and not a compact!

PS: I DO drive a Corolla because it saves $$ for buying guns and ammo. :p
 

Murdock

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What I did not see explicitly mentioned in this thread is the fact that the S&W .44 Magnum named models and later M29's were built on what was essentially the Model of 1955 Target platform, which in itself was an enhancement of the Model of 1950 Target in .45ACP, .44 Special and .45 Colt.

These were and are beautifully built sixguns that are a pleasure to shoot indoors or out, with bullseye paper loads or hot field loads. Hard or soft they are still accurate target revolvers for those who find accurate shooting pleasurable.;)
 

Ozzieman

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I have 6 44 SPECIALS and only 1 44 mag,,,

The reason I shoot 44 specials out of the 1 mag that I have is because for every 44 mag case that I have loaded, I have 1000 specials.
And since shooting a 44 special with 240 GR lead is the same energy level as a 45 acp,,,,, are you calling the great 45 ACP a
WIMP gun:mad:,,,:D

Then again I am a wimp,,, I saw one of these setting on a bench at a gun show last weekend and thought it was the stupidest gun I have ever seen.
It definitely lives with the proposition that "Bigger is better"!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg6XJr7VJus
 
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stevieboy

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I get the sense from these posts and from what I've observed that .44 Magnums and Specials are, more and more, essentially reloaders' rounds. I haven't purchased either a Magnum or a Special in .44 because I don't reload and because commercial ammo, especially in .44 Special, is costly and hard to find.

However, if I DID reload, then my choice would be the Magnum for the same reason that I own several .357 revolvers rather than .38s. A Magnum is just plain more versatile than a Special. In my .357s I regularly shoot everything from virtually recoil free 148 gr. wadcutters right up to and including 125 gr. Magnum screamers. I would do the same thing if .44 were my caliber.

I have a couple of friends with .44 Magnums and they usually download their rounds slightly so that they're hot but not uncontrollably so. I have one friend with a Model 29-2 that I just love to shoot, either with Magnums or with Specials. .44 either in Special or in Magnum is a great caliber. Too bad it's not so accessible for us non-reloaders.
 

noyes

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Why do guys buy a 44 mag and only shoot light loads in it?


Shoot one of these with full power 44 mag. loads , then you will know.

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Edward429451

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Face it the lighter loads are more general purpose than the more specialized bear stompers. The judicious use of differing power levels makes the Magnum guns nice and versatile.

I get the sense from these posts and from what I've observed that .44 Magnums and Specials are, more and more, essentially reloaders' rounds.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. The already versatile magnum platform makes a whole new definition of the word versatile when the word reloading or cast is spoken. There's a plethora of bullet styles to choose from for 44's. Most are good designs and cast for pennies. A sampling of my 44 slugs
 

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shafter

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The best answer I can come up with is that this is a sport where people can do whatever they like with they're equipment. If you like it, go for it!

This however doesn't stop us from giving out opinions and advice:)
 
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