Who Is Going to Join Me? 22LR Know Your Skills Challenge
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stagpanther
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The second article is pretty interesting--I take a look at my bore after each outing and pull cartridges from the chamber every now and then--I find evidence of lead chunks adhering to the throat every time. I'm not sure it's exclusively the bolt and feeding itself that does it; I think it's possibly the "stickiness" of the bullet sealing to the throat that strips some from the bullet.
Not really. The rifle barrels and chambers are so much better that what happened in 1980 is totally irrelevant to the current discussion.
But I guess you already know that.If they are so much better, why aren't they equaling or breaking records set before 1980?Not really. The rifle barrels and chambers are so much better that what happened in 1980 is totally irrelevant to the current discussion.
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I doubt that happens. If it does, it wouldn't be the same across all bullets. All bullets would be unbalanced to varying amounts. Accuracy suffers when that happens.
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I see these little chunks stuck to the throat even when I carefully hand-feed a cartridge straight into the chamber--what do you think might account for it? The gun shoots extremely well otherwise.
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It takes some doing to get the throat clean, that's where I see about 97% of fouling in my CZ's barrel.
Record for smallest 5 shot group is 1998. One record in 1980 and one in 1981 still stand. A few in 1998. Every other record (about 100 total, 37 in Benchrest) has been beaten in the last 20 years, most in the last 10 years. No registered matches in 2020, but 2019 has about 10 records set. So, there is not a single standing record prior to 1980 that has not been beat. Kind of blows your theory into oblivion. Do some research.
Even Eley seems to be doing okay...
January 26th, 2014
12.4 mm for 40 Shots at 50m — New Record at Eley Test Center
Two new 50m rimfire 40-shot group size records were set last week at the Eley test range in Fellback (Stuttgart), Germany. This range employs an electronic target system that automatically calculates shot placement with great precision. The rifles are secured in clamping fixtures during testing. On January 21st, a new 13.2 mm record was set, follow by an even-better 12.4 mm record (that’s 0.488″). The previous record was 13.3 mm set in 2007.
Before we go further, we need to explain how these 40-shot records are determined. The record is not 40 shots fired in one single, continuous string at a single target. Instead the record is based on the software-calculated “consolidated” group size of four, separate 10-shot groups. Software at the Eley test range is capable of over-laying four, 10-shot groups so they appear as one large “consolidated” group. These “consolidated” 40-shot group overlays have been recognized as new records.
January 26th, 2014
12.4 mm for 40 Shots at 50m — New Record at Eley Test Center
Two new 50m rimfire 40-shot group size records were set last week at the Eley test range in Fellback (Stuttgart), Germany. This range employs an electronic target system that automatically calculates shot placement with great precision. The rifles are secured in clamping fixtures during testing. On January 21st, a new 13.2 mm record was set, follow by an even-better 12.4 mm record (that’s 0.488″). The previous record was 13.3 mm set in 2007.
Before we go further, we need to explain how these 40-shot records are determined. The record is not 40 shots fired in one single, continuous string at a single target. Instead the record is based on the software-calculated “consolidated” group size of four, separate 10-shot groups. Software at the Eley test range is capable of over-laying four, 10-shot groups so they appear as one large “consolidated” group. These “consolidated” 40-shot group overlays have been recognized as new records.
A rimfire shooters hack...Tumble your bullets, by hand, in walnut media to get all the lube off. Then use dry compressed air to make sure there is no dust.
Every 10th bullet, lubricate with a drop of Rem oil. I don't shoot those into groups since they will be flyers.
Eliminates the need to sort and maintains a more consistent weight and rifling engagement. In most of my rimfires, it keeps them cleaner and more accurate.
Also, if every rimfire shooter did this, the only proper use for RemOil would become common knowledge.
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In other words, the lubricant on the bullets has no real beneficial use?
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The premium Ely and RWS ammo I've shot is pretty stiff at around 40 cents a shot, I would think they would come with a better lubricant?
I'm referring to 40-shot prone records at 100 yards.Record for smallest 5 shot group is 1998. One record in 1980 and one in 1981 still stand. A few in 1998. Every other record (about 100 total, 37 in Benchrest) has been beaten in the last 20 years, most in the last 10 years. No registered matches in 2020, but 2019 has about 10 records set. So, there is not a single standing record prior to 1980 that has not been beat. Kind of blows your theory into oblivion. Do some research.
Of course benchrest records are broken. Every once in a while is a statistical anomaly. The group size extremes increase and decrease. Smallest ones are statistically luck. As are the largest ones. It's not nice to reveal the largest groups fired in benchrest matches.
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Hmm, make a statement, proven false again, and then narrow it down to claim it is only 1 of about 100 records. Surely you can comprehend the fallacy of your argument and statements.
Some people cannot comprehend the fact that some competitive shooting sports are based on how often bullets touch different size scoring rings revealing their marksmanship skills....without artificial support.Hmm, make a statement, proven false again, and then narrow it down to claim it is only 1 of about 100 records. Surely you can comprehend the fallacy of your argument and statements.
Nor do they understand why the quality of their arms and ammo effects the scores they shoot.
Top classified competitive shooters can call all shots inside a quarter MOA circle on target. Add that to the biggest groups the ammo shoots on target. The answer is the group size on paper.
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