DiscoRacing
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Want to get a pocket size pistol...auto..and would like to stick with .45acp caliber...
.. just trying to figure out who makes the smallest one.
.. just trying to figure out who makes the smallest one.
What model/brand is the smallest 45acp??
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I have a Kahr P45. It is a touch larger than the PM45 mentioned above, but still only about 18 ounces. It is not quite a pocket gun, but it is lighter than my Kahr MK9, all metal pocket gun, which is about 22 oz.
I have never had a problem with the P45, and it is quite comfortable to shoot.
Ron
I have never had a problem with the P45, and it is quite comfortable to shoot.
Ron
Nakanokalronin
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Smallest would be the Downsizer. Its about the same height and length as a deck of cards. 
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The smallest that I know of is no longer produced. It was called the Downsizer WSP. Must've been interesting to fire:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21459&d=1164941784
Pete
Was typing as the previous post was being done. Alas.
The smallest that I know of is no longer produced. It was called the Downsizer WSP. Must've been interesting to fire:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21459&d=1164941784
Pete
Was typing as the previous post was being done. Alas.
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I had 2 kahr PM45 the first one was a problem child and after 2 trips back to kahr they fixed it. My second PM45 worked fine. I had the pocket 45 itch but I came to the final conclusion that a 9mm compact gun is most likely a better platform for pocket carry than a 45 compact. The question that remains is this: Is a 45 as effective as a 9mm out of a short barrel and is it worth having less rounds? Just food for thought. I have the PM9 now and I am happy with it. Another poster mentioned to be careful about your thumb hitting the mag release while firing thats good advise it was a constant problem for me with the PM45.
To me - its the law of diminishing returns. I have a small .45 - a PT 145 Millenium Pro DS. I also have a Kahr PM9.
The Taurus has a barrel that is just over 3". Total length is 6.125". It is bit of a beast to shoot compared to my PM9 Kahr. It has been reliable so far and you can hold 10+1 with the standard mag. With standard 230 gr target load, it does snap quite a bit. Frankly - I don't think the .45 smaller than my Taurus makes sense. I have seen the kick that the .45 ACP has in the Kahr PM45. I think the same about the Kahr pm40. Too much cartridge for the size of the pistol, in my opinion.
You take the .45 cartridge down to the size of a Kahr PM and I am not convinced you gain much coming from such a small pistol and short barrel compared to some solid 9 mm defense loads. Like anything - practice makes you better but I would rather practice at 9mm prices. Plus followup shot recovery is quicker on that 9mm.
But if you are going with a small .45 - then the Kahr is probably the best way to go.
loose_holster_dan
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have you ever tried to hit anything with a tiny 45? the colt defender isn't near as tiny as these, but still very easy to conceal, and you just might be able to hit something with it!
Again - that is my contention...
Ya gotta hit what you are shooting at. It would be great if the OP had a buddy that has a small .45 ACP and he could shoot 50 rounds through it.
I hear so much that even the small Ruger .380 is a little bear to shoot.
Size of caliber and size of pistol really impact a shooters ability to put lead where it is supposed to go. And all shooters are different.
Downsizer if you want 1 shot.
AMT .45 Backup if you want 6 shots, DAO. FWIW, I've got mine working perfectly - you do need to replace the recoil spring with a Wolf spring, and even then you should replace the spring every 500 shots or so - probably less. The AMT .45 Backup has all of what you need to make it a reliable DAO .45. They do need some work, I'll admit. Just don't try to lighten that trigger - its heavy for a reason. If you want an out-of-the-box perfect shooter without having to replace a recoil spring or do some polishing, then the AMT .45 Backup isn't for you.
Here's a picture of mine in a pocket holster that I like to use.
AMT .45 Backup if you want 6 shots, DAO. FWIW, I've got mine working perfectly - you do need to replace the recoil spring with a Wolf spring, and even then you should replace the spring every 500 shots or so - probably less. The AMT .45 Backup has all of what you need to make it a reliable DAO .45. They do need some work, I'll admit. Just don't try to lighten that trigger - its heavy for a reason. If you want an out-of-the-box perfect shooter without having to replace a recoil spring or do some polishing, then the AMT .45 Backup isn't for you.
Here's a picture of mine in a pocket holster that I like to use.
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Rugerismisticness
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S&W 1911 ES is as small as you should go for a .45. Also look at the M&P45c