What some of us have been saying all along; they aren't gougers, they're free market capitalists trying to make a profit while they can; Old Joe has promised to stop all internet sales of anything firearm related, so things will only get worse. At their prices, only those who truly need the ammo will buy it; the way it should be.
There is no ammo shortage
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What some of us have been saying all along; they aren't gougers, they're free market capitalists trying to make a profit while they can; Old Joe has promised to stop all internet sales of anything firearm related, so things will only get worse. At their prices, only those who truly need the ammo will buy it; the way it should be.
jetinteriorguy
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300 9mm cases divided by 6 people is one box apiece. Hardly burning up ammo, pretty much a normal outing. They may have been the type that get out twice a year so one box each isn’t much.
The shortage of ammo is due to the surge of new shooters buying new guns for the first time. According to local news there were more than 7 million background checks done for first time buyers in 2020. A lot of this was fueled by the "friendly protests/riots," and other reasons.
So when you have 7 million new shooters buying ammo whether it is 2 or 3 boxes and than the other old time shooters numbering more than 7 million that only buy when they go to the range the millions upon millions create a huge demand that the suppliers can not keep up with in manufacturing. Than you get all the other millions that are panic buying and hoarding the shortage is created.
Now you have old and new shooters not finding ammo so now there interest is trying to load their own and the components normally available for me as I have reloaded for decades are not available. Big domino affect. Might as well go buy some dominoes and play while this blows over.
So when you have 7 million new shooters buying ammo whether it is 2 or 3 boxes and than the other old time shooters numbering more than 7 million that only buy when they go to the range the millions upon millions create a huge demand that the suppliers can not keep up with in manufacturing. Than you get all the other millions that are panic buying and hoarding the shortage is created.
Now you have old and new shooters not finding ammo so now there interest is trying to load their own and the components normally available for me as I have reloaded for decades are not available. Big domino affect. Might as well go buy some dominoes and play while this blows over.
"There seems to be a primer shortage.
I picked up 3 pounds of powder today. Didn't need it, but it was there, and I've learned that you can't get it when it isn't there."
Yes, I quoted myself as part of this follow up to a post made last Friday.
Primers: they had no primers, but I noticed that their price had risen from $3.69 (or $3.79) per 100 to $4.99. That's close to a one third increase.
Powder: Friday morning they had 13 one lb bottles of HP-38; all gone by closing on Saturday (maybe sooner).
I picked up 3 pounds of powder today. Didn't need it, but it was there, and I've learned that you can't get it when it isn't there."
Yes, I quoted myself as part of this follow up to a post made last Friday.
Primers: they had no primers, but I noticed that their price had risen from $3.69 (or $3.79) per 100 to $4.99. That's close to a one third increase.
Powder: Friday morning they had 13 one lb bottles of HP-38; all gone by closing on Saturday (maybe sooner).
Prices have certainly raised... especially online prices.
I suspect the newer shooters have little idea what is reasonable to pay.
And a bunch of them shop online.... for giggles... look at the price of 22LR online.
Check the low to high prices ( no one has to pay the asking prices, but it is still indicative of how out of whack some online ammo prices are.
For future context...
Aguila 1B222335 Standard High Velocity 22 Long Rifle (LR) 38 Grains HP 50 Box Case of 500 640420001036 (price reflects 5% bulk discount)... 19 cents per round... or $94.90 / 500rd brick ( Lowest price shown )
CCI Mini Mag .22LR 40 Grain VELOCITOR Copper Plated Hollow Point - 50 Round Packs ** IN STOCK NOW $1.60 / single rd.. or $80 / 50rds ( Highest price shown )
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr
I wonder if they actually sell any of the expensive one....
I suspect the newer shooters have little idea what is reasonable to pay.
And a bunch of them shop online.... for giggles... look at the price of 22LR online.
Check the low to high prices ( no one has to pay the asking prices, but it is still indicative of how out of whack some online ammo prices are.
For future context...
Aguila 1B222335 Standard High Velocity 22 Long Rifle (LR) 38 Grains HP 50 Box Case of 500 640420001036 (price reflects 5% bulk discount)... 19 cents per round... or $94.90 / 500rd brick ( Lowest price shown )
CCI Mini Mag .22LR 40 Grain VELOCITOR Copper Plated Hollow Point - 50 Round Packs ** IN STOCK NOW $1.60 / single rd.. or $80 / 50rds ( Highest price shown )
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr
I wonder if they actually sell any of the expensive one....
9MMand223only
New member
"it sounded like a war"
Let me correct you. This depends where you are from. You see, if you are from France, then what you are describing is the sound of white flags waving in the wind. Since it wasn't that, I take it to mean you went to an outdoor gun range shooting area in the USA.
Let me correct you. This depends where you are from. You see, if you are from France, then what you are describing is the sound of white flags waving in the wind. Since it wasn't that, I take it to mean you went to an outdoor gun range shooting area in the USA.
RCoulter52
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Bartering works well. 
Some time back, I purchased some, once fired, 7.62x51 and 308 brass at a local gun shop at a very good price. I use the Lee Decapper & Base on all military brass, as sometimes it can be temperamental.
Last week, while in a state of boredom, I started de-capping the mil brass, and..... Boom! Berdan crap!!! Out of the 200 plus rounds, there were 45 Berdan primed cases. I deal with these guys all the time so I called them and told them about it. They apologized and said they would make it good. I, in turn, told them it wasn't necessary, I wanted them to know as someone else might not be as easy going about it as me.
I took the brass along with 150+ pieces of .30-'06 brass into the shop. They looked over the brass and asked how much I wanted for it. I told them I would rather trade it out. They had some Lil' Gun powder for $31.00 a pound. I asked if they would trade the brass for 2 pounds? Well, I now have 2 pounds of Lil' Gun in my growing stash of powders.
I need to go out to the garage and see what other brass I have that I no longer need.
Randie
Fort Smith, AR
Some time back, I purchased some, once fired, 7.62x51 and 308 brass at a local gun shop at a very good price. I use the Lee Decapper & Base on all military brass, as sometimes it can be temperamental.
Last week, while in a state of boredom, I started de-capping the mil brass, and..... Boom! Berdan crap!!! Out of the 200 plus rounds, there were 45 Berdan primed cases. I deal with these guys all the time so I called them and told them about it. They apologized and said they would make it good. I, in turn, told them it wasn't necessary, I wanted them to know as someone else might not be as easy going about it as me.
I took the brass along with 150+ pieces of .30-'06 brass into the shop. They looked over the brass and asked how much I wanted for it. I told them I would rather trade it out. They had some Lil' Gun powder for $31.00 a pound. I asked if they would trade the brass for 2 pounds? Well, I now have 2 pounds of Lil' Gun in my growing stash of powders.
I need to go out to the garage and see what other brass I have that I no longer need.
Randie
Fort Smith, AR
stephen426
New member
Um, there certainly is an ammo shortage. Many online stores are sold out. I know that some places have ammo at jacked up prices, but it isn't like you can buy anything you want if you had the funds. Defensive ammo is very hard to come by.
101combatvet
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Why I use a notebook.
Carl the Floor Walker
Moderator
Something tells me the second wave of firearm Purchases and more sever ammo shortages will begin this summer.
Aguila Blanca
Staff
I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think the law says "home state" -- I think it says "state of residence." And IIRC the BATFE (or the courts) have ruled that means "where you are living at the time." If you own a home in Arkansas, for firearms purposes while you are in Arkansas you are a resident of Arkansas and you can legally purchase handguns (and lowers) in Arkansas.kraigwy said:
Average Joe
New member
There are many new gun owners, and most are anxious to shoot their new guns.
101combatvet
New member
With a driver's license from that state, it gets expensive to change tags and insurance for a few weeks and then back again.