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As I've said before, you can't know ahead of time what you're going to need to do to solve your problem. The more you can do, and the better you can do it, the luckier you'll be.zombietactics said:
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Tactical Reloads--some common sense...
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For my part, there are a couple of main reasons that it is worth talking about.The energy and debate around reloads continues to puzzle me.
The way tactical reloads are incorporated into some of the supposedly practically oriented shooting competitions reinforces the use of poor tactics and penalizes those who try to take a more realistic approach to reloading under the gun. The rules of one organization effectively encourage competitors to take a loaded firearm out of the fight by reloading it before a reload is actually required and while targets still need to be engaged, and then, on top of that, the rules require that this unnecessary reload be done in a manner that takes about 3 times as long as necessary.
Second, many instructors and institutions have bought into the concept of the tactical reload and spend time (waste their students' time and money, IMO) teaching it in contexts where it has no realistic application.
One deadly mistake to assumes it will be short and fast. You can't cover all cases and scenarios with just a narrow view of possibilities without considering different scenarios. Expecting the unexpected is part of training past a few simple classes.
No one will make all the right decisions every time but the idea of protecting myself against the odds of a short gunfight is not my idea of being prepared. Murphy's law will guide my "just in case" thinking. I just hope that "prepared within reason" means a little more than the previously stated belief.
Certainly true, and I certainly did not say that was ALL I prepared for. I stated that the only realistic scenario I could foresee doing a tac-load in was after-action.
I'm hard-pressed to envision myself pinned down in a shootout anywhere in my life; I'm going to shoot to stop or to get away. I'm not an LEO anymore, and I'm not going to follow-through to an arrest, I'm just going to do something to stop the threat until I can leave the area.
I do agree with some statistically unusual scenarios being included in training; I've even written about them (http://www.thegunzone.com/well-enough.html) I just don't foresee lots of chances to tac-load in the real world.
Larry
For my part, there are a couple of main reasons that it is worth talking about.
The way tactical reloads are incorporated into some of the supposedly practically oriented shooting competitions reinforces the use of poor tactics and penalizes those who try to take a more realistic approach to reloading under the gun. The rules of one organization effectively encourage competitors to take a loaded firearm out of the fight by reloading it before a reload is actually required and while targets still need to be engaged, and then, on top of that, the rules require that this unnecessary reload be done in a manner that takes about 3 times as long as necessary.
Second, many instructors and institutions have bought into the concept of the tactical reload and spend time (waste their students' time and money, IMO) teaching it in contexts where it has no realistic application.
Being outside the competition environment, I often miss valid points relating to it. As someone interested in practical shooting, and appreciative of the fact that many people leverage competition for practical skill development, I can see why something that is not actually practical would be a source of irritation.
Tactical reload can be useful in a combat scenario (nothing we will be in) eg you've fired 12 rounds a few minutes earlier, now you're going to breach the house he/they ran into. You'll want a full magazine, either planing on going through the entire mag laying down suppressive fire if dealing with a fatal funnel or just not having to reload 12 rounds earlier than needed in a close quarters situation.
I generally carry a S&W BG .380, doesn't hold that many, not sure how well I'd be able to keep a round count in my head and pretty sure my slide would lock back before I knew it.
Others mentioning the tac reload for after the primary incident is over is a good idea, once you've assessed no immediate threat.
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I generally carry a S&W BG .380, doesn't hold that many, not sure how well I'd be able to keep a round count in my head and pretty sure my slide would lock back before I knew it.
Others mentioning the tac reload for after the primary incident is over is a good idea, once you've assessed no immediate threat.
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That's my conclusion too. I can't say for certain that it's not useful at all outside of a military/military style combat situation, but I can't come up with any reasonable scenario that doesn't fit that mold where a tactical reload can be justified without the use of tortured logic.Tactical reload can be useful in a combat scenario...
Justifying that requires that there is simultaneously no threat and that a threat exists.Others mentioning the tac reload for after the primary incident is over is a good idea, once you've assessed no immediate threat.
If there's no threat then it doesn't matter how one reloads. If there is a threat then one needs to reload as rapidly as possible and dropping a partially loaded mag is of no consequence.
It's only when there is a threat and there is no threat simultaneously that it makes sense to keep the partially loaded mag (because of the threat) and take your time doing the reload (because there is no threat).
Only time I do tact reloads is in IDPA match when it is required and it is not that hard to catch your mag while holding the replacement in your left hand as well. All other times I do a speed reload, by the time I hit the mag release with my right thumb, my left hand is already bring the replacement mag to the mag well, hit the slide release and your back in business, takes about 1 second to reload.
IDPA will only allow 10 rounds per mag, so you are forced to do a mag exchange during any one stage (16 rounds minimum into 8 targets) a stage will last anywhere from 11 to 25 seconds even with the mag exchange. Quite a few people do it without any problems at all.
Jim
I pick up my mags from the ground when it is all over, as do most people. In a tact reload you can not let the mag hit the ground and it goes right into my left coat pocket while I am still shooting. Both are really easy to do if you practice.
IDPA will only allow 10 rounds per mag, so you are forced to do a mag exchange during any one stage (16 rounds minimum into 8 targets) a stage will last anywhere from 11 to 25 seconds even with the mag exchange. Quite a few people do it without any problems at all.
Jim
I pick up my mags from the ground when it is all over, as do most people. In a tact reload you can not let the mag hit the ground and it goes right into my left coat pocket while I am still shooting. Both are really easy to do if you practice.
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Derbel McDillet
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That's my conclusion too. I can't say for certain that it's not useful at all outside of a military/military style combat situation, but I can't come up with any reasonable scenario that doesn't fit that mold where a tactical reload can be justified without the use of tortured logic.
Tortured logic?
I perform tactical reloads as part of my training. I'm proficient. It's a skill I maintain as an option to restore my pistol to its highest state of battle-readiness when time and conditions permit.
If there's no threat then it doesn't matter how one reloads.
If I'm going to reload, when time and conditions permit, then I don't want to drop a partially loaded magazine onto asphalt/concrete where it might break and become useless.
SPEMack618
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For what's its worth, my platoon sergeant always said that "tactical reloads" were a great way to wind up with a bunch of half empty magazines at a bad time.
zombietactics
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Tortured logic?
I perform tactical reloads as part of my training. I'm proficient. It's a skill I maintain as an option to restore my pistol to its highest state of battle-readiness when time and conditions permit.
In fairness, you really didn't answer the challenge of "tortured logic". Stating that you do it as a part of your training does not provide any logic as to why it is necessary to be especially proficient at tactical reloads. Similarly, offering that's it's a skill, maintained as an option, doesn't really speak to those questions of necessity or priority.
If I'm going to reload, when time and conditions permit, then I don't want to drop a partially loaded magazine onto asphalt/concrete where it might break and become useless.
I would submit that in any case where a fast reload is necessary, worrying about the mag being ejected (and whether you damage it) is very low on the list of priorities. The price of a $35 magazine is insignificant in that context.
If time and conditions are such that you can safely worry about possibly damaging that magazine, then there isn't any necessity for speed in that case.
Derbel McDillet
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Stating that you do it as a part of your training does not provide any logic as to why it is necessary to be especially proficient at tactical reloads.
A Tactical Reload is an integrated part of my weapon manipulation skills that are common between my handgun and AR - integrated manipulation skills that include loading, unloading, reloading and clearing stoppages - all of which use common processes and movements to minimize decision-making, increase efficiency and can be performed quickly.
Similarly, offering that's it's a skill, maintained as an option, doesn't really speak to those questions of necessity or priority.
It's an option I employ when I make a decision that I want to quickly restore my weapon to full battle-readiness status. The ONLY difference in time between a Tactical Reload and a Combat Reload is the fraction of a second it takes to manually remove the partially depleted magazine before inserting and seating the fresh magazine.
I would submit that in any case where a fast reload is necessary, worrying about the mag being ejected (and whether you damage it) is very low on the list of priorities. The price of a $35 magazine is insignificant in that context.
In any case where my weapon doesn't fire when I press the trigger I first perform tap/rack (because in the heat of battle I don't know if I've experienced a stoppage or an empty magazine and it's quicker to perform immediate actions than to diagnose the problem), then progress to a Combat Reload when time and conditions permit.
Tactical Jackalope
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- Frank EttinAs I've said before, you can't know ahead of time what you're going to need to do to solve your problem. The more you can do, and the better you can do it, the luckier you'll be.
This.
You won't know if you're on 1-2 rounds or 7-8 rounds. I know a lot of magazines have the numbers, and Glock has it 1 by 1. ex: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, etc. No need to and not good to lock your vision on that though, so no. I was taught to top off when cover is available and taken. Never know when they're going to be more threats coming or if those threats were idle the whole time and were overlooked. It's much more swift to reload during that quick down time session (if the even is one) than to engage and run dry only to attempt a reload while being engaged by the threat.
Hope that makes sense.
However, what I quoted holds the most truth. You won't know.
People will throw out scenarios all day that make them shine and make you look dim and they just go round and round.
zombietactics
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I am honestly NOT trying to just be argumentative, but ...
But - again - there is no logic in those statements beyond an un-examined "I think it's a good idea and that's the way I train". It says nothing as to why a Tactical Reload is an important skill, or why and especially speedy one is a necessary skill. Simply stating that it's "... an integrated part of my weapon manipulation skills ...", etc. says nothing about whether it's something useful or important to integrate.
If that decision is rational, it follows that a circumstance where a reload needs to be fast, is also a case where retaining the partial magazine is superfluous. Keep in mind my context is that of citizen-self-defense cases. I can see where "top offs" make perfects sense, and are necessary in a protracted military engagement.
If you are at slide-lock, and are tapping/racking ... that seems off. You're concerned about practicing speedy Tactical Reloads (presumably with retention) ... but have not yet acquired the very basic skill of recognizing the feel of slide lock vs. the click or mush of a malfunction? If speed is a concern at all, you've added two steps (tapping and racking) for no benefit.
I agree that a linear-non-diagnostic progression makes far more sense for malfunctions. It appears in this case that you have applied the principle out-of-context to reloads as well. I'm not sure who teaches it the way you've described, but it's comes off odd to me. If there is something I am missing, I am certainly open to instruction.
For my part (and it took me a long, very stubbornly resistant time to get here, lol), I don't see the need for any special kind of specially-named reload, highly optimized for some special set of circumstances or another.
To me a reload is a reload ... you drop the old mag, put another one in there, rack the slide. There is almost (almost) no conceivable "reload problem" that this does not solve. The corner-case of "I shot through the mag in the gun, reloaded, shot a partial and then reloaded, shot to slide lock and now I really wish I had that partial mag" has (probably) never even once happened in a citizen-self-defense incident.
A Tactical Reload is an integrated part of my weapon manipulation skills that are common between my handgun and AR - integrated manipulation skills that include loading, unloading, reloading and clearing stoppages - all of which use common processes and movements to minimize decision-making, increase efficiency and can be performed quickly.
But - again - there is no logic in those statements beyond an un-examined "I think it's a good idea and that's the way I train". It says nothing as to why a Tactical Reload is an important skill, or why and especially speedy one is a necessary skill. Simply stating that it's "... an integrated part of my weapon manipulation skills ...", etc. says nothing about whether it's something useful or important to integrate.
It's an option I employ when I make a decision that I want to quickly restore my weapon to full battle-readiness status. ...
If that decision is rational, it follows that a circumstance where a reload needs to be fast, is also a case where retaining the partial magazine is superfluous. Keep in mind my context is that of citizen-self-defense cases. I can see where "top offs" make perfects sense, and are necessary in a protracted military engagement.
In any case where my weapon doesn't fire when I press the trigger I first perform tap/rack (because in the heat of battle I don't know if I've experienced a stoppage or an empty magazine and it's quicker to perform immediate actions than to diagnose the problem), then progress to a Combat Reload when time and conditions permit.
If you are at slide-lock, and are tapping/racking ... that seems off. You're concerned about practicing speedy Tactical Reloads (presumably with retention) ... but have not yet acquired the very basic skill of recognizing the feel of slide lock vs. the click or mush of a malfunction? If speed is a concern at all, you've added two steps (tapping and racking) for no benefit.
I agree that a linear-non-diagnostic progression makes far more sense for malfunctions. It appears in this case that you have applied the principle out-of-context to reloads as well. I'm not sure who teaches it the way you've described, but it's comes off odd to me. If there is something I am missing, I am certainly open to instruction.
For my part (and it took me a long, very stubbornly resistant time to get here, lol), I don't see the need for any special kind of specially-named reload, highly optimized for some special set of circumstances or another.
To me a reload is a reload ... you drop the old mag, put another one in there, rack the slide. There is almost (almost) no conceivable "reload problem" that this does not solve. The corner-case of "I shot through the mag in the gun, reloaded, shot a partial and then reloaded, shot to slide lock and now I really wish I had that partial mag" has (probably) never even once happened in a citizen-self-defense incident.
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Time and place.... If done properly
In the below quoted example from a prev post( im thinking military or maybe a contractor based principle recovery)
"Tactical reload can be useful in a combat scenario (nothing we will be in) eg you've fired 12 rounds a few minutes earlier, now you're going to breach the house he/they ran into. You'll want a full magazine, either planing on going through the entire mag laying down suppressive fire if dealing with a fatal funnel or just not having to reload 12 rounds earlier than needed in a close quarters situation."
I disagree with a tactical reload there. It would be "old one out...new one in" as fast as possible and hit the door. Im not going to fiddle around attempting to switch and stow a partial mag
The way to do a tactical reload (IMHO) is to use your rearmost pouch. This leaves the front pouch (the go to for ammo pouch) with a full mag. Think your way thru the tac load so when it hit the fan your front pouch is a full mag.
Just my random thoughts
In the below quoted example from a prev post( im thinking military or maybe a contractor based principle recovery)
"Tactical reload can be useful in a combat scenario (nothing we will be in) eg you've fired 12 rounds a few minutes earlier, now you're going to breach the house he/they ran into. You'll want a full magazine, either planing on going through the entire mag laying down suppressive fire if dealing with a fatal funnel or just not having to reload 12 rounds earlier than needed in a close quarters situation."
I disagree with a tactical reload there. It would be "old one out...new one in" as fast as possible and hit the door. Im not going to fiddle around attempting to switch and stow a partial mag
The way to do a tactical reload (IMHO) is to use your rearmost pouch. This leaves the front pouch (the go to for ammo pouch) with a full mag. Think your way thru the tac load so when it hit the fan your front pouch is a full mag.
Just my random thoughts
Tactical Jackalope
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Take this for what it's worth. Just a story from a guy on the internet.
There was a burglary in progress. Husband was out, wife was home alone. Suspect came in through the back window. They leave a 3rd generation Smith and Wesson with a fully loaded magazine that doesn't have a round chambered. So, missy has gone to the range before...Range. Not getting legitimate training but she knows how the weapon functions.
She grabs the gun and heads to the back door, greets the man with a 9mm S&W to which he froze, she racks the slide, racks the slide, racks the slide, by now the guy has already ran. But she kept racking the slide and ejecting casings because she was so scared.
What does this have to do with anything? She wasn't trained, she was just a range bunny.
I hear you, but this similar thing happens to police officers very often with safeties and empty guns.
There was a burglary in progress. Husband was out, wife was home alone. Suspect came in through the back window. They leave a 3rd generation Smith and Wesson with a fully loaded magazine that doesn't have a round chambered. So, missy has gone to the range before...Range. Not getting legitimate training but she knows how the weapon functions.
She grabs the gun and heads to the back door, greets the man with a 9mm S&W to which he froze, she racks the slide, racks the slide, racks the slide, by now the guy has already ran. But she kept racking the slide and ejecting casings because she was so scared.
What does this have to do with anything? She wasn't trained, she was just a range bunny.
I hear you, but this similar thing happens to police officers very often with safeties and empty guns.
Derbel McDillet
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It says nothing as to why a Tactical Reload is an important skill, or why and especially speedy one is a necessary skill.
How about if I find myself in a mall or movie theater mass shooting situation and I've exchanged shots and the bad guy(s) have moved on to easier targets. I may desire to quickly top off my pistol (and retain my partially depleted magazine) before I sprint to an exit in case I encounter a bad guy(s) enroute and have to continue the fight. (In this case I don't want to jettison my partially depleted magazine onto a hard floor where it could burst apart.) I don't have to think about what I'm doing when I perform a Tactical Reload - I just do it because it's as natural to me as as loading my pistol.
If you are at slide-lock, and are tapping/racking ... that seems off. You're concerned about practicing speedy Tactical Reloads (presumably with retention) ... but have not yet acquired the very basic skill of recognizing the feel of slide lock vs. the click or mush of a malfunction?
Will I be able to spontaneously diagnose that my trigger felt “mushy” instead of “click” or will I simply diagnose that my pistol didn’t fire when I pressed the trigger?
IS the slide locked open on an empty magazine (mushy trigger)?
IS there a feeding failure (mushy trigger)?
IS there a stovepipe (mushy trigger)?
IS there a doublefeed (mushy trigger)?
All I know is my pistol didn’t fire when I wanted it to and my first immediate action is tap/rack because it is one action that clears many problems. Tap/rack doesn’t take my attention away from the bad guy(s) – I just perform it automatically. If tap/rack fails to get the pistol running then I’m not preoccupied with "fixing" my pistol and my mind is free to deal with my number one problem – to immediately do what I might have to do to keep from being shot, stabbed, bludgeoned, etc., and I may have to defer my next immediate action (Combat Reload) until time and conditions permit. If, during my Combat Reload, I cannot insert the fresh magazine into the pistol then I immediately put the fresh magazine between the ring & pinky fingers of my firing hand, lock open the slide, rip the “depleted” magazine from the gun, cycle the action three times to clear the action, and then complete my Combat Reload.
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zombietactics
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How about if I find myself ...
There are an infinite number of marginally possible "what if" scenarios. To use them as the basis of a point of logic is - classically - called "hand waving" or a form of sophistry. It's as easy to imagine a counter example, the point which would be "what is far more likely and and a better basis for analysis?"
We could take the shooting at the Westfield mall in Kenya recently ... a dozen or so terrorists involved. Certainly that could be "a case" for carrying multiple 33-round magazines every time I go to the mall. I think it makes more sense in that unlikely case (which actually happened) to want/need 4/5 33 rounds magazines, than worrying about magazines bursting open (and therefore basing my skill set around that unlikely failure).
In the case you describe, why do you especially worry about the very low possibility of a magazine "bursting apart"? Do you experience magazines bursting apart a lot? I don't, I haven't ever even once, and I often train on hard-surface police ranges made of concrete or hardwood. The worst I've experienced is a couple of rounds popping out in some cases ... no bursting open or destroyed magazines.
Sooo - with due respect - basing a training regimen (and techniques adopted) upon low-probability equipment failures, occurring within low-probability events ... not sure that this is the best way to argue your point. At the very least, you haven't demonstrated a clear advantage for retaining vs. letting them drop.
Will I be able to spontaneously diagnose that my trigger felt “mushy” instead of “click” or will I simply diagnose that my pistol didn’t fire when I pressed the trigger?
I don't know how to say this without it coming off snarky, so I'll just say it and note that I'm not trying to be snarky or condescending. I'd hope that you'd at least consider the possibility that recognizing slide-lock by feel is a very common thing. It's not in the same category as "diagnosis" really.
It's not magic and it doesn't feel at all like a failure-to-fire, stovepipe or a feedway stoppage. It's a pretty basic skill, taught effectively in many "level 101" type classes. You don't "get it" immediately, but it takes very little time before it's obvious and unambiguous. It becomes second-nature very, very quickly with just a little work.
The point at which you've reached slide-lock (and still have shooting to do) is a critical moment requiring speed and efficiency. Adding two steps - tapping & racking - at that moment is not speedy or efficient, assuming that you can train to eliminate those steps.
I've observed that it's easy enough to do so.
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Deaf Smith
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There are an infinite number of marginally possible "what if" scenarios.
Hence I have only two types of reloading techniques for semi-automatics.
The speed reload and the tac-load.
I don't use any administrative reload or reloading with retention.
That way only two things to train with. One for flat out emergency and the other when I think I have time to reload and save the ammo.
And no, my tac-load technique is more-or-less fumble proof (nothing is absolutely fumble proof!) I have posted on other boards how I do my tac-load. It is easier then the one experts use.
Deaf
Derbel McDillet
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In the case you describe, why do you especially worry about the very low possibility of a magazine "bursting apart"?
Glock magazines have a plastic baseplate. Drop one that's 1/2 to 3/4 full onto a hard surface from shoulder height and the baseplate has been known to crack at the edge. When this crack happens the magazine spring will burst the floorplate off the magazine. That's not a good thing if I want to keep that magazine and ammo.
I'd hope that you'd at least consider the possibility that recognizing slide-lock by feel is a very common thing. It's not in the same category as "diagnosis" really.
How many actual unexpected stoppages (failure to feed, stovepipe, in-line stovepipe, doublefeed) have you experienced during training which interferes with the slide going into battery? I suspect it's probably very few. So how do you KNOW when you "feel" (diagnose) a difference? YOU DON'T KNOW because YOU DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE in "feeling" and diagnosing the difference between a slide that's out of battery because of an empty magazine or because it's out of battery because of a failure.
When your gun fails to fire what do you do? Do you presume your magazine is empty and stand there like a static cardboard target while you attempt to perform a Combat Reload?
When you misdiagnose it costs you time. Time creates vulnerability. If you incorrectly diagnose (Orient and Decide) then you end up with a fresh magazine in one hand and a jammed pistol in the other hand. How often do you train for that scenario?
A bad guy trying to kill you is an "external problem". A stoppage of your gun is an "internal problem".
The longer you dwell on Orienting and Deciding (diagnosing) the more vulnerable you are. The longer you dwell on an internal problem the longer your attention is diverted from the more important external problem.
The concept of non-diagnostic immediate actions is to short circuit the OODA Loop from "Observe-Orient-Decide-Act" to "Observe-Act". You OBSERVE (sense) that the pistol didn't fire when you expected it to and you ACT to quickly perform a single immediate action (tap/rack) that clears many failures. If tap/rack fails to get the pistol running then your attention isn't sucked into dealing with your internal gun problem. You don't become distracted from the external problem. Your mind is free to immediately deal with the danger. You don't end up standing there like a static cardboard target.
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If there's an imminent threat, then it doesn't make sense to reload a gun that doesn't need reloading in the first place. But if you, for some reason, do decide to reload while an imminent threat exists but when you don't actually have to, your priority should still be getting your gun running again as fast as possible. Dropping a magazine should be so low on your list of priorities that it shouldn't even register.If I'm going to reload, when time and conditions permit, then I don't want to drop a partially loaded magazine onto asphalt/concrete where it might break and become useless.
If there's no threat then take your time and reload any way you want. It doesn't matter how you do it nor how long it takes since time isn't an issue.
If you really need to do that (i.e. imminent threat exists), then you also need to do it as fast as possible. If you don't really NEED your weapon to be at full battle-readiness status (i.e. no imminent threat exists) then reload however you want and take as long as you want. If there's no imminent threat it doesn't matter how you reload.It's an option I employ when I make a decision that I want to quickly restore my weapon to full battle-readiness status.
That's not true unless you drop the partially depleted magazine after manually removing it--which would be ludicrous.The ONLY difference in time between a Tactical Reload and a Combat Reload is the fraction of a second it takes to manually remove the partially depleted magazine before inserting and seating the fresh magazine.
You obviously also have to put the magazine away or it wouldn't make any sense at all to remove it manually in the first place. And until you've done that and returned your support hand back to its grip you will be unnecessarily handicapped by having to use your weapon with only one hand, or at the least by having to try to grip the gun and hold onto the magazine at the same time.
From fully ready back to to fully ready (apples to apples comparison) comparing a speed relaod to a tac-reload is more than a "fraction of a second" of difference.
In this scenario there is no imminent threat because "the bad guy has moved on". So reload however you want--with no imminent threat it doesn't matter what you do.How about if I find myself in a mall or movie theater mass shooting situation and I've exchanged shots and the bad guy(s) have moved on to easier targets. I may desire to quickly top off my pistol (and retain my partially depleted magazine) before I sprint to an exit in case I encounter a bad guy(s) enroute and have to continue the fight. (In this case I don't want to jettison my partially depleted magazine onto a hard floor where it could burst apart.) I don't have to think about what I'm doing when I perform a Tactical Reload - I just do it because it's as natural to me as as loading my pistol.
This is very simple from a logical standpoint.
If there IS an imminent threat and you have a running gun, it makes no sense to stop and reload if you don't have to. If you DO have to reload then reload as fast as you can.
If there is NO imminent threat then any technique that's reasonable and that meets whatever personal requirements you can dream up is just fine.
It's only when there IS a threat and there is NO threat simultaneously that it makes sense to keep the partially loaded mag (because of the imminent threat) and take more time than necessary doing the reload (because there is no imminent threat). That's what I mean when I say it takes tortured logic to justify a tac-reload.
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