Stuck wedge?

toolslinger

New member
Go buy a set of brass hinge pins. File or grind the small end to just fit. You can use the big end like the clothes pin suggestion. They give you a little more area than most brass punches.
Also did you take the screw out? I have had them so big they would remove metal from the wedge if you did not loosen them.
 

TomADC

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Just got a email from Northern Tools, they no longer carry the Lisle tool, so back to the drawing board, will try the brass hinge pins next,
 

TomADC

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Found a pice of 7075-T6 aluminum bar stock in the garage I'm going to saw off a piece and make a wedge tool something that will fit the slot with maybe a few thousands to spare on all edges. Will keep the punch portion short for strength.
Work begins Monday
 

halfslow

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If all this beating hasn't bent the arbor, I would proceed by removing the retaining screw and grinding the wedge off until it is almost flush with the barrel, then push it through the hole.

Before trying to push it through, you should drill two small holes in the ground off wedge by each side and enlarge the holes to relieve the metal preventing its passing through.
You should only have to drill less than 3/16 of wedge material away.

Access to a 1/8 inch end mill cutter would allow you to remove wedge metal more carefully. This could be done in a drill press.
 

zullo74

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That's a lousy idea! It's wedge shaped. It won't go through the hole from that side even if you do drill relieving holes. The slot in the arbor is wedge shaped too. :eek:
 

TomADC

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Okay its apart and looks fine.
BUT you ask how did you do it? Why he found the perfect cheap wedge tool. Went to Home Depot and bought a solid brass surface bolt made by Everbilt # 308972 I pulled the handle off the sliding part and used the inner bar, saw off the screw hole on one end (this is the part that screws to the wall) I found it fits the wedge slot perfectly a couple of taps with a small brass hammer the the wedge moved enough to remove with my fingers.
Did show signs of being driven in.

You can see the part I used here.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...&langId=-1&keyword=surface+bolt&storeId=10051
 
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Tanker6

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As My Daddy Always Said....

.....every job requires the proper tool. (His usual response to why he had so many tools). ;)

T6 a/k/a Chick
 

Andy Griffith

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A big framing hammer could have worked just as good though. :cool:

Just kidding!!!
Glad you got it out.

I have pictures of the incredible hulk putting in wedges in my mind. :eek:
 

toolslinger

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Brilliant!

This is one of those "why didn't I think o that" moments. I am in construction and I must have installed 50 of those.
 

Bill Akins

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I'm always very careful when getting a stuck wedge out to not scratch the frame as I have seen so very many people do. Many of the used BP revolvers on gunbroker have scratches on the frame around the wedge where someone used a screwdriver and a hammer to drive the wedge out, and of course the screwdriver slipped and scratched up the frame, usually repeatedly because they didn't stop after just one scratch, but continued doing the same thing that further scratched it! Nothing drives the value down like seeing the frame side all scratched up around the wedge hole showing that whoever had it didn't know what they were doing, or were just negligent, and makes you wonder what else is messed up inside. Passed on more than a few auctions after seeing a badly scratched up frame near the wedge.

Here's a little wedge remover tool I made out of a piece of aluminum. It fits in the slot and won't scratch the steel. Of course I carefully file my wedges so that they will remove just using hard finger pressure, (careful not to file them too much!) but just in case I carry this tool with me. After these pictures were taken I changed the head of the tool recently to where instead of it being only ground on one side, it was ground on both sides. Works really well and on several occasions when I pushed the wedge in kinda hard with my fingers and it was not wanting to pull out just with finger pressure, I just put this tool in the wedge slot and gave it a gentle tap and the wedge came right out. Easy to make out of aluminum bar stock....

Tool under barrel of upper revolver, you can tell the tool's size by comparing to revolver's size.
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Since this pic was taken both sides of tool head are ground now (and smoothed) instead of just one. I did that more for esthetics than anything because it worked just fine with only one side of the head tapered ground.
It just bugged me how it looked with only one side of the head tapered so after these pics I filed the other side of the head to match.
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NEVER use a flat head screwdriver to drive out a wedge! You might get away with it a time or two, but eventually the screwdriver WILL slip and scratch up your frame around the wedge slot. I know because I did exactly that to a black powder revolver using a flat head screwdriver about 35 or so years ago before I learned better.

If your wedge is sticking out the other side so that it is hard to get a tool against it without the tool slipping off, and thus you can't use the edges of the wedge hole to keep your tool from slipping off the wedge, then just put the long flat side of a tool like mine over the top of the wedge, then tap the tool with a hammer. That way the tool doesn't slip and being aluminum and having its flat side against the wedge like that, it should either loosen the wedge enough to pull it out by hand, or at least drive it out enough so that you can now put the tool in the wedge slot and the edges of the wedge slot will keep the tool from slipping in order to finish driving the wedge the rest of the way out. That way you don't get a scratch on your frame.


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Bill Akins

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Of course you're right technically Zullo. I was thinking barrel but said frame. But you know what I meant. Smart alec. Lol :p.


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