Sig Custom Shop
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Correct me if I'm wrong but what exactly is the SIG service plan going to do? If you legitimately think your slide is bent you need to tell them. Otherwise all they will do is replace springs and other wear items and call it a day. If your frame has been damaged due to a bent slide nothing in that plan will cover the damage, ditto for the slide. With as busy as SIG is if you think you have a specific issue you need to tell them when it is sent in, not pray that they might find it.
I have a hard time telling from the pictures. Is the issue that there is only wear inside one slide rail? Was it there before? If not can you visibly see some sign of the slide being bent? I ask because I am still having a hard time imagining a situation where he bent the slide in replacing the sights. Even if he clamped the sides of the slide in a vise the pressure should have been distributed along the length of the slide. You say the slide catches, but how and at what point? If you can map the point where it catches to a point on the slide examine that area and take pics.
All you have shown me so far is a slide rail that looks rather worn, which lube can help mitigate to an extent, and some marring of the finish around the dovertails for the sights. Let's take a minute and do some critical thinking before sending it in and putting more money into it, especially if all you have is $500 in it. You would have to decide if refinishing it is worth it to you. Is it a collector or a shooter? Again I think more info is needed.
I have a hard time telling from the pictures. Is the issue that there is only wear inside one slide rail? Was it there before? If not can you visibly see some sign of the slide being bent? I ask because I am still having a hard time imagining a situation where he bent the slide in replacing the sights. Even if he clamped the sides of the slide in a vise the pressure should have been distributed along the length of the slide. You say the slide catches, but how and at what point? If you can map the point where it catches to a point on the slide examine that area and take pics.
All you have shown me so far is a slide rail that looks rather worn, which lube can help mitigate to an extent, and some marring of the finish around the dovertails for the sights. Let's take a minute and do some critical thinking before sending it in and putting more money into it, especially if all you have is $500 in it. You would have to decide if refinishing it is worth it to you. Is it a collector or a shooter? Again I think more info is needed.
Yes only wear on inside of one slide rail. Visibly you can't tell (well I can't) if the slide is bent. No the damage as wasn't there before. What I meant by the slide catching is that it is slightly harder to rack now. That's when I noticed the damage to the rail.
The reason I was assuming he bent the slide is that the mark on top of the slide
Basically coincides where the damage to the frame rail starts. If I had to guess it seems as though it is only a small portion bent in and that is causing the slide to scrape the rail and damage the finish. I just dont want to make things worse or fire an unsafe weapon.
And it's a shooter, not a collector. But at the same time, I like nice things (who doesn't though)
The reason I was assuming he bent the slide is that the mark on top of the slide
Basically coincides where the damage to the frame rail starts. If I had to guess it seems as though it is only a small portion bent in and that is causing the slide to scrape the rail and damage the finish. I just dont want to make things worse or fire an unsafe weapon.
And it's a shooter, not a collector. But at the same time, I like nice things (who doesn't though)
Yes but drawing a correlation between some mark on the top of the slide that could easily be the result of something simple, as we can see the smith didn't do a great job at installing the sights, and the damage to the rails is tricky. That damage to the rails would have to come from the sides of the slide being bent inward (hence WVsig suggesting checking with calipers to see if the width of the slide is changing at one point, which is still a very good piece of advice). In that case I'm not sure the mark on the top is connected, and if so how? It could very well be connected, just be careful of drawing faulty conclusions.
Is the slide harder to rack through the entire length of the pull? The rails on a SIG run the full length of the slide. If the sides of the slide (say that ten times fast) were bent inward, I would think the pull would be hard the whole way though. Did you also check the inside of that side of the slide coinciding with that slide rail to see if there are any marks there as well?
My first priority would be reaming the hell out of the smith that did the work. If you do end up paying for this you want to get something back from that shop. If you do send it in to SIG do what I said and make them aware of your concerns ahead of time and in the work order. Don't just assume they'll check it.
Is the slide harder to rack through the entire length of the pull? The rails on a SIG run the full length of the slide. If the sides of the slide (say that ten times fast) were bent inward, I would think the pull would be hard the whole way though. Did you also check the inside of that side of the slide coinciding with that slide rail to see if there are any marks there as well?
My first priority would be reaming the hell out of the smith that did the work. If you do end up paying for this you want to get something back from that shop. If you do send it in to SIG do what I said and make them aware of your concerns ahead of time and in the work order. Don't just assume they'll check it.
So I went to the range today and brought the Sig with me to run some rounds through it and have the smith check it out. Ran fine. I miss shooting it. The wear didn't increase noticeably after putting a hundred rounds through it so that's a good thing.
Had the smith (who I'm building a relationship with and I trust him so far) take a look at it. He is a Sig certified Armorer for whatever that's worth. He inspected it, stripped it down and gave it a once over. He was shocked to see the damage and determined that there is a small piece at the very front of the slide that is slightly bent in. He doesn't think that it is crucial though and it has not gouged the frame yet. Looks to be a slight bend. Told me he didn't think it should concern me. I bought this used from a relative who bought it off of a former employee. The smith said it looks like it was hardly fired at all. Thought the stiffness in the slide might actually be due to the springs not be being fully broken in. Told me not to worry about it and keep it lubed.
The sights however are bent to cr@p and after cleaning it tonight when I got home, the front sight slid right off. So darn aggravated right now. Think I am going to buy some new Trijicons, have him (the new smith - edited for clarity) install them and just run the gun for a while.
Decided not to send it to Sig. I mean, I haven't really shot it much in the last 6-8 months and after firing it, think I am just going to enjoy it for a while and save my money. Thing runs nice!
While there though, the Sig bug bit me again. Think I picked out my next purchase.....a P229 in 9mm. Thing felt great in my hand. And I think I want the Scorpion version. Say what you will but I really like that style for some reason. So I will save the $400+/- I was going to spend at the Sig custom shop and just end up buying one of those when I find a good deal.
Anywho, thanks for all the help fellas. Your knowledge is always appreciated!
Had the smith (who I'm building a relationship with and I trust him so far) take a look at it. He is a Sig certified Armorer for whatever that's worth. He inspected it, stripped it down and gave it a once over. He was shocked to see the damage and determined that there is a small piece at the very front of the slide that is slightly bent in. He doesn't think that it is crucial though and it has not gouged the frame yet. Looks to be a slight bend. Told me he didn't think it should concern me. I bought this used from a relative who bought it off of a former employee. The smith said it looks like it was hardly fired at all. Thought the stiffness in the slide might actually be due to the springs not be being fully broken in. Told me not to worry about it and keep it lubed.
The sights however are bent to cr@p and after cleaning it tonight when I got home, the front sight slid right off. So darn aggravated right now. Think I am going to buy some new Trijicons, have him (the new smith - edited for clarity) install them and just run the gun for a while.
Decided not to send it to Sig. I mean, I haven't really shot it much in the last 6-8 months and after firing it, think I am just going to enjoy it for a while and save my money. Thing runs nice!
While there though, the Sig bug bit me again. Think I picked out my next purchase.....a P229 in 9mm. Thing felt great in my hand. And I think I want the Scorpion version. Say what you will but I really like that style for some reason. So I will save the $400+/- I was going to spend at the Sig custom shop and just end up buying one of those when I find a good deal.
Anywho, thanks for all the help fellas. Your knowledge is always appreciated!
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No way man! I may be a bit soft on the guy about the sights but I'm not stupid haha!
I like their shop and range and they were great in helping my wife try out guns until she found one she wanted. His wife is the same size as my wife and brought in 3 different personal pistols for her to try. Under different circumstances I would have really chewed his a$$ but this is a "live and learn" moment IF there is not actually major damage besides the slight cosmetic of the rail.
I like their shop and range and they were great in helping my wife try out guns until she found one she wanted. His wife is the same size as my wife and brought in 3 different personal pistols for her to try. Under different circumstances I would have really chewed his a$$ but this is a "live and learn" moment IF there is not actually major damage besides the slight cosmetic of the rail.