Seized by the Manchester, New Hampshire PD for Open Carry

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mvpel

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Many of you may already have seen this thread on FreeRepublic, The High Road (updates), or Packing.org. In light of The Firing Line's reopening, I thought I'd post it here.

Latest news follows in the first post.

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Capt. David Mara
Public Integrity & Professional Standards
Manchester Police Department
351 Chestnut Street
Manchester, NH 03101-2294

March 29, 2004

Dear Captain Mara,

I am writing to you in your capacity as head of Public Integrity and Professional Standards to lodge a complaint against your department and certain of your officers stemming from an incident that took place on Saturday, March 27 at about 9:00pm.

Background

My wife and I had just finished our 11th anniversary dinner at Kobe Japanese Steakhouse on Second Street, and had stopped in to the Barnes & Noble bookstore on South Willow Street for a cup of latte and a few books and DVDs. I was dressed neatly in slacks and a purple oxford shirt, and was clean-shaven.

Due to the pleasant evening air, I left my coat in the car. Since I had neglected to tuck my shirt over it, my holstered Glock 30 sidearm was thus visible in the small of my back in a Workman IWB holster.

For about 10-15 minutes, I chatted with my wife about choosing a sweater from a selection of knitting books she was reviewing, browsed the history and political sections near the restroom, and then made my way over to the Science Fiction aisle.

I was idly leafing through an interesting book, minding my own business, when suddenly I found myself seized by the right shoulder and my holster, pushed towards the corner of the bookcase, by either Officer Chris Byron or Office David DuPont, I’m not absolutely certain which of them.

I exclaimed, raised my hands up to prevent myself from going face first into the bookshelf. I dropped the book, and upon glancing over my right shoulder, saw another uniformed officer at my right flank. The officer holding me requested that I relax and place my hands on my head. I immediately complied.

I was then disarmed, the holster being unsnapped and removed from my waistband. I informed the detective to whom the firearm was handed that it had a round in the chamber upon his inquiry. I believe the individual who unloaded it was one of the detectives, either Sean Leighton or John Patty.

I was then asked to go outside the store with them, and I agreed. I was released and walked to the doorway, handing over my driver’s license and New Hampshire pistol license on the way out.

Once my record came back clear, naturally, I was subjected to a condescending lecture about the carrying of arms, quizzed repeatedly as to why I carry a firearm.

I replied “to protect myself and my family,”[1] which yielded a number of derisive comments about the effectiveness of firearms in self-defense and defense of others – hmm, why do cops carry them, I wonder? “We have to,” one of the detectives whined. They also lectured on liability issues, terrorism, and other such topics.

I informed them that I am trained, having completed the Lethal Force Institute’s Judicious Use of Deadly Force course, as well as handgun licensing requirements in California and for a Utah Concealed Carry license.

Given the crowd of talkative uniformed officers and detectives around me (Ofc. Chris Byron, Ofc. David DuPont, Sgt. Bartlett, Det. Sean Leighton, and Det. John Patty), and having been somewhat rattled by the ambush, I had difficulty finishing a sentence, and in hindsight I should probably have told them it was none of their damn business why I carry a firearm or whether I was trained.

After about 5-10 minutes of my polite endurance various disrespectful and arrogant statements and questions by the officers and detectives, my firearm was returned to me, and I reloaded it and placed it back on my belt, this time tucked under my shirt. Upon completing a contact card with Ofc. Byron, at his vehicle, I retrieved my coat, and returned to the store to find my wife.

We purchased about $200 worth of books and DVDs, and then went home.

Points of Complaint

Simple Assault – RSA 631:2-a-I(a)

At no time until, during, or after the officer laid his hands on me, was there any legal cause for his touching or restraining me.

The irrational alarm induced by the sight of my holstered handgun among those who called 911 aside, I was conducting myself in a calm and reasonable manner, merely browsing the books and minding my own business, occasionally chatting with my wife, not posing any threat or menace to anyone else in the store.

RSA 631:4, Criminal Threatening, does not apply as I was not engaging in any manner of physical conduct that purposely placed or attempted to place another in fear of imminent bodily injury or physical contact.

RSA 644:2, Disorderly Conduct, does not apply as I was not engaging in “violent, tumultuous, or threatening behavior,” either knowingly or purposefully. The open carrying of a firearm is not inherently threatening behavior, even when it makes someone from Massachusetts pee their pants and hyperventilate.

Unlike Illinois,[2] New York, or Washington, DC, where an openly carried firearm is prima facie evidence of a violation of the law, there is no New Hampshire statutory provision against open carry. In fact, it is a right guaranteed explicitly in the Constitution of the State.

Your officers should have enough experience and common sense to evaluate the totality of the circumstances – my attire, my demeanor, the fact that most armed criminals don’t carry openly, etc. – and take action on that basis, rather than on the basis of a paranoid fear of armed citizens which they evidently share with those who called upon them.

Public Duty – RSA 627:2

Given the fact that there was no violation of the law taking place or reasonably suspected when I was seized, the officer’s use of physical force was not authorized by law, and thus does not fall under the exemptions offered to public servants by this section of New Hampshire law.

The irrational concern expressed by others at the mere sight of a well-dressed individual openly carrying a firearm “near the children’s section” has no legal standing, and does not afford any credible justification. Another’s belief in “evil gun radiation” has no bearing on law or reality.

Physical Force in Law Enforcement – RSA 627:5

This statute provides that “[a] law enforcement officer is justified in using non-deadly force upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to effect an arrest or detention or to prevent the escape from custody of an arrested or detained person, unless he knows that the arrest or detention is illegal…”

Again, the officer should have known, and can reasonably be expected by a court and a jury to know, that there was no legal justification for seizing and detaining me under the laws of New Hampshire, and his detention of me was therefore illegal and unjustified.

Fourth Amendment

My Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable seizure was violated, as there was no reasonable basis to believe, given the totality of circumstances and New Hampshire law, that a violation of the law was underway or planned before I was grabbed by the officer.

Defamation of Character

The seizure of my person under false and illegal pretenses, being ordered to place my hands on my head, and my being escorted from the store by a crowd of police officers had a clear and unmistakable tendency to expose me to public hatred, contempt, or ridicule[3] by all the patrons of the store who witnessed the incident, and by anyone who might read about the incident in the newspaper were it to be reported in the media’s usual breathless and inflammatory style.
 

mvpel

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...continued...

Conclusion

I understand that your officers often face difficult, dangerous, and demanding situations, and that they must conduct themselves in such a way as to minimize the risk they face while carrying out their duties.

However, this necessity to minimize risk does not override the fundamental right guaranteed to all citizens of this State and Nation to be free from arbitrary exercise of the police power while lawfully going about their business.

If they had approached me, I would have greeted them politely. If they had requested that I tuck my shirt over my firearm due to the irrational concern expressed by other patrons of the store, I would have politely complied.

Even if they felt the need to have one officer sneak up behind me, ready to tackle me, while another officer engaged me in conversation, that would have been fine too.

But to have their first interaction with me be an ambush, to find myself grabbed and restrained for no justifiable reason while peaceably going about my business, is far beyond the pale. And to then be subjected to a condescending interrogation about my choice to exercise my fundamental human right to carry a firearm for the defense of myself and my family was even more irritating, in light of the fact that I’ve undergone about half a dozen federal background checks and fingerprinting in the process of obtaining my CCW cards.

Whether or not your officers and detectives realize it, and whether or not you even like it, the armed citizen in New Hampshire is your ally and friend in the endless struggle against dangerous criminals. We are part of the reason that the violent crime rate in New Hampshire (175.4 per thousand[4]) and Vermont (113.5 per thousand) is a fraction of that of Massachusetts (476.1 per thousand), a state where women living in a town with an at-large serial rapist must go begging to the police for pepper spray. Thomas Paine expressed this principle eloquently, saying:

“…arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them; ...the weak will become a prey to the strong.”[5]

There are far too many instances – as I’m sure you are well aware – where the weak, deprived by law of effective tools for self-defense, have fallen prey to the strong, such as the Manchester high school girls who were brutally raped in recent weeks.

Just have a look at page A8 of the March 29 Union Leader, and every month, for crimes prevented or ameliorated by armed citizens.

Reflecting on the incident the following morning, I realized that I had forgotten Massad Ayoob’s point that sheep can’t tell the difference between the sheep-dog and the wolves, even though the sheep-dog would risk his life to save the sheep from hungry wolves.

I realize that some of the patrons of Barnes & Noble thought of me as a wolf, rather than a sheep-dog, and reacted accordingly by calling in the authorities. Needless to say, I will be careful to carry my firearm more discreetly in the future to avoid spooking the sheep.

However, I expect better discernment from fellow sheep-dogs.

I have not yet decided whether or not to file a lawsuit on the basis of the aforementioned violation of my rights and New Hampshire law. If I do, I will copy you on the service as a courtesy.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, Captain Mara. If you wish to discuss this matter further in a meeting, please feel free to contact me at the phone number indicated on the first page, or via e-mail at mvpel@yahoo.com, and we can arrange something.

Sincerely,

Michael Pelletier.
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[1] New Hampshire Constitution, Article 2-a
[2] 720 ICLS 5(a)(10), unlawful use of weapons.
[3] RSA 644:11, Criminal Defamation
[4] Federal Crime Statistics, 2000 - http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/macrime.htm http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nhcrime.htm
[5] Thoughts On Defensive War, (1775) in 1 Writings of Thomas Paine, at 56, M. Conway ed
 

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Mods, can we restrict posting on this particular thread to mvpel only? We can start a new one to discuss. Wouldn't be a bad idea to float it either. If the decision is made to do this, please delete my post to clean things up. :cool:
 

mvpel

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So, to bring everyone up to date on this issue:

Late the following week, I retained the services of Penny Dean, an attorney and member of the Gun Owners of New Hampshire board of directors.

The Manchester PD immediately clammed up, putting all the information they have under the rubric of an "internal investigation," exempt from public records requests.

They interviewed the store manager without informing us, and he refuses to talk with us.

They are citing regulatory rules barring the release of 911 record information, Penny has been doing research to see how we might be able to get those records without having to file a lawsuit.

They attempted to contact my wife to interview her last week, in spite of Penny's request that they refrain from ex partae communication.

Dave Workman published an article about the situation in GunWeek, in the May 10 edition - the MPD refused to comment.

Gun Owners of America has expressed interest in the case, and the board of Gun Owners of New Hampshire discussed it at their last meeting a couple of weeks ago. I expect that their quarterly newsletter will include an article about it.

There has been essentially no interest expressed by the newspapers, even the Manchester Union-Leader.
 
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Not possible or appropriate to restrict. The story is fascinating and Michael's written complaint is one that all should see and respond to....articulate, non-emotional and unwavering in its demand. Besides, mv may get some great ideas from the Members here.

mv-
I've taken the liberty of correcting the URL in the post above.
You deserve real high marks for the way you're handling this.

If your attorney would like to seek advice by another in the profession who specializes in these matters, I'll try to put him together with Richard W. Stevens of JFPO and SWAT fame....he's the guy I'd turn to. If needed, I'm certain we can find the funds for his services in the TFL legal slush fund. Feel free to email me on this.

Rich
 

mvpel

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Rich,

I'm actually a friend of Richard's - we met at the Gun Rights Policy Conference. I seem to recall informing him about this situation, though it's been a busy month so I might be misremembering.
 

jAK-47

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Speaking of Mas Ayoob, I wonder if he'd get involved or offer advice. He DOES live about 20 miles from the Barnes & Noble where this took place. Maybe you should have your lawyer contact him if he thinks Mas could help.

Good luck with this. I've been in that B&N many times with a gun - but always had it concealed :D

jAK-47
 

LAK

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"They are citing regulatory rules barring the release of 911 record information, Penny has been doing research to see how we might be able to get those records without having to file a lawsuit."

... Reading your account, I would have thought that criminal charges against individual officers would be more appropriate - then a civil case for damages against the city. In which case they would have a hard time blocking the release of anything. Too late now, but B&N instore camera footage might have been very useful.
 

mvpel

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The bookstore does not have video surveillance - the cost-to-bulk ratio of their product is fairly low, and they have sensor gates around the CD/DVD department and around the front door for loss prevention.

We were hoping to resolve the matter without having to file a lawsuit, since filing a lawsuit is very, very, very expensive. Get them to admit their wrongdoing, apply sanctions to the officers involved, and update their training, etc. If we have to sue, we will. Not sure how much more time Penny wants to give them.
 

mvpel

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I spoke for three minutes with the Governor of New Hampshire, Craig Benson, this evening, at his first "Meet the Governor" thing here in Merrimack.

His reaction was "they're still doing that??" and instructing his aide to jot down an action item for the attorney general.

I also spoke with a reporter from the Nashua Telegraph, so we'll see what comes of that.

More tomorrow morning or this weekend.
 

RegBarc

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I love it when police officers sworn to uphold the Constitution do exactly the opposite. They are an embarassment, good luck in your legal situation.
 

LAK

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Well, if you have the ear of the state governor, and he is not only aware of the problem - but sees it as a problem and get's involved with the AG - there might be some action.
 

SturmRuger

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I am glad you you found a new way to keep us up to date.

I still need to join the NMA I just got a speeding ticket this weekend and I am going to need some help fighting it.
 

Theophorus

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I'm getting really anxious to hear how this is progressing. I understand how slow the system is, but that knowledge hasn't buffered my thirst for the latest. WHAT'S GOING ON!? :D

Theo
 

buckmeisterq

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GOA email alert

I just got an email alert from GOA, describing the incident, it names names and asks us to email the Manchester COP and our legislators. Should I post it here, or is that at mvpel's discretion?
 
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