spacecoast
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Present for me in the mail tonight...
... now to find that .22LR ammo!
... now to find that .22LR ammo!
Reloading supplies sold out?
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I had a feeling this was going to happen so last summer I made sure I had about a 18 month supply of powder, primers and .22LR ammo. Glad I did that now, and will repeat that when these start to run low.
funny thing is now people are going to hoard enough powder and primers to last them for years. Poor primer and powder manufactures will have a glut of it a year from now but no one will be buying because of the 50,000 SPP's sitting on the bench that their grand kids will be loading or selling as antiques 50 years from now
reminds me of this
Johnny Carson once caused a near month long toilet paper shortage in the U.S. in December of 1973. In his show, he said, “You know what’s disappearing from the supermarket shelves? Toilet paper… There’s an acute shortage of toilet paper in the United States.” Americans promptly went out and bought up every piece of toilet paper they could find. Supermarkets tried to ration it, but to no avail. By noon the next day, pretty much all the nation’s supermarkets were sold out.
After several days of toilet paper shortages due to this hysteria, Carson went on the air to try to explain it had been a joke and apologized. But because the shelves were almost always empty of toilet paper at this time, whenever some would come in, people would buy it all and hoard it. This toilet paper shortage lasted a full three weeks.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index...ce-caused-a-month-long-toilet-paper-shortage/
funny thing is now people are going to hoard enough powder and primers to last them for years. Poor primer and powder manufactures will have a glut of it a year from now but no one will be buying because of the 50,000 SPP's sitting on the bench that their grand kids will be loading or selling as antiques 50 years from now
reminds me of this
Johnny Carson once caused a near month long toilet paper shortage in the U.S. in December of 1973. In his show, he said, “You know what’s disappearing from the supermarket shelves? Toilet paper… There’s an acute shortage of toilet paper in the United States.” Americans promptly went out and bought up every piece of toilet paper they could find. Supermarkets tried to ration it, but to no avail. By noon the next day, pretty much all the nation’s supermarkets were sold out.
After several days of toilet paper shortages due to this hysteria, Carson went on the air to try to explain it had been a joke and apologized. But because the shelves were almost always empty of toilet paper at this time, whenever some would come in, people would buy it all and hoard it. This toilet paper shortage lasted a full three weeks.
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index...ce-caused-a-month-long-toilet-paper-shortage/
Colorado308shooter
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I made sure I had a 12 month supply of powder, primers, and bullets in 40 S&W, 9mm, 223 and .308.
I completed my stockpile a month before Newtown happened, timing could not have been better.
I also have a two year supply of 22 LR, shooting two thousand rounds/year.
I completed my stockpile a month before Newtown happened, timing could not have been better.
I also have a two year supply of 22 LR, shooting two thousand rounds/year.
907arcticcat
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Primers and powder are the easy part. It's the bullets that are hard to stock in equal quantities!
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Lucky you...
Now they're over $35/box...
http://www.natchezss.com/Category.c...ail&brand=CC&prodID=CC0011&prodTitle=CCI #200 Large Rifle Primers 1000/box
This is getting ridiculous. I like to shoot, but know what....it was already expensive enough for myself and my sons to go send 300 rounds in a day's shooting. They keep up this gouging, I'm going to take up golf.
Eff em. Once all the hoarders are stocked up, I think the manufacturers are going to see a lot of stuff start sitting on their shelves and prices will return to their prior levels, which were always a function of supply and demand.
No one is shooting "more"... in fact, probably less since prices have risen so much. The "demand" isn't due to more shooting- it's due to panic buying like we see in the picture above.35,000 primers...really?
spacecoast
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Very likely true. I'm taking a couple of kids to the range to burn up some ammo this weekend (a commitment made prior to the panic) but I'm doing less of that this year as long as current conditions exist.
My recent purchase of 7K primers was a little larger than normal in an effort to dilute the darned hazmat fee. I was down to 1K standard pistol primers.
Tula small pistol magnum primers are back in stock at Natchez this morning for $19.99.
http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=TLKVB9M&src=exrbSrch
ScottRiqui
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In an ironic bit of humor, I'm expecting delivery of 5,000 large pistol primers today, and today is also the day that I'm sending my only pistol that uses large-primer ammo back to the factory to hopefully resolve a feeding issue.
Would you consider requiring a background check or banning internet sales of such items to be a restriction? Because there are federal bills that have been introduced and NY has already passed a law which has these requirements.
I am not saying that justifies the run on ammo and reloading supplies, but there are some moves being made.
I am not saying that justifies the run on ammo and reloading supplies, but there are some moves being made.
there is nothing concerning reloading supplies in the latest NY State bill that I could find. Here is the text, maybe you can point out what page that is on
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/15/nyregion/20130115nygun-document.html
Here is Feinsteins bill
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/01/plain-text-format-feinstein-gun-ban.html
I saw nothing in there about powder, primers etc either. Are you referring to some other Federal Bill ?
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/15/nyregion/20130115nygun-document.html
Here is Feinsteins bill
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/01/plain-text-format-feinstein-gun-ban.html
I saw nothing in there about powder, primers etc either. Are you referring to some other Federal Bill ?
The other day I decided I wanted to try Ramshot's True Blue powder for fun. Hah! That got of laughs at the store. Went down to the store and they wouldn't even order a can for me (which they usually will do) . Said their distributors were wiped out. No can do.... Maybe I should make a drive to Miles City and get it 'direct' .
.I fear we are going to take this thread a little too far off topic and being new here I would rather not push my luck. So, I will keep this short.
It is going to fully depend how a law may define "ammunition". I would have to assume smokeless powder and primers would be included. I can't imagine pro-gun control folks are going to push to require licensing and background checks for cartridges, and not for the parts require to make them. But, I will not dig through the document and pull up a page number for you. I don't live in NY, would never live in NY so I don't really care much about their gun laws other then to say they are silly.
Here is one example, again, it will depend on how one defines ammunition.
http://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/ammunition-background-check-act-of-2013
It is my understanding that as of 1/15/2014 online sales of ammo to residents of NY will be illegal. I am just going by what folks who live there have told me, along with hearing that Midway and some other suppliers are not shipping there anymore, or were not for a while.
Again, I don't think any of this justifies most people freaking out and buying up a ton of ammo. Though I must admit, if I lived in NY, CA, Mass or Conn. I would probably be buying like a mad man. Honestly, I am more upset about the shortage of 22lr then I am reloading components.
It is going to fully depend how a law may define "ammunition". I would have to assume smokeless powder and primers would be included. I can't imagine pro-gun control folks are going to push to require licensing and background checks for cartridges, and not for the parts require to make them. But, I will not dig through the document and pull up a page number for you. I don't live in NY, would never live in NY so I don't really care much about their gun laws other then to say they are silly.
Here is one example, again, it will depend on how one defines ammunition.
http://www.blumenthal.senate.gov/ammunition-background-check-act-of-2013
It is my understanding that as of 1/15/2014 online sales of ammo to residents of NY will be illegal. I am just going by what folks who live there have told me, along with hearing that Midway and some other suppliers are not shipping there anymore, or were not for a while.
Again, I don't think any of this justifies most people freaking out and buying up a ton of ammo. Though I must admit, if I lived in NY, CA, Mass or Conn. I would probably be buying like a mad man. Honestly, I am more upset about the shortage of 22lr then I am reloading components.
Various online stores have stopped online sale of loaded ammunition has been illegal in NY State for some time but that is store policy not law. I am also fairly sure that NYC bans it already. Lots of bad info floating around out there. I really urge everyone to read up a bit and not spread he said/she said rumor
here is a list of states and their respective ammo sales laws laws
http://www.theamericanmarksman.com/State-Restrictions_ep_42.html
Only State with a restriction on reloading components is Massachusetts
anyway this is too far off topic and in the wrong forum anyway so apologies to all
here is a list of states and their respective ammo sales laws laws
http://www.theamericanmarksman.com/State-Restrictions_ep_42.html
Only State with a restriction on reloading components is Massachusetts
anyway this is too far off topic and in the wrong forum anyway so apologies to all
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Online ammo purchases from residents in NYC were illegal, I don't think the state had such a restriction....at least not according to the three of four online ammo websites FAQ's I checked. I think you are participating in the spread of bad info
If there were already a ban on direct internet sales, one would think Cuomo would not be saying that that restriction was added by his pet legislation that will require an FFL to do the transfer. Again, it will come down to how they define ammunition.
http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/01152013-outline-of-nys-groundbreaking-gun-legislation
"To track high-volume ammunition purchasers, the legislation will make New York the first state in the nation to track ammo purchases in real time. All dealers in ammunition must be registered with the State Police, and each sale will require both a state background check and transmission of a record of the sale to State Police, so as to enable alerts of high volume purchases. Ammunition records will be purged within a year of submission. Dealers must report any loss of inventory. The legislation will also include a ban on direct internet sales of ammunition. Ammunition ordered over the internet must be delivered in a face-to-face transaction with a firearms dealer and the purchaser will be subject to the state background check. The Aurora shooter reportedly amassed 6000 rounds through direct online purchases."
Anyway, that is enough of that and sorry for the off topic. I have my primers, I even have a little powder left, now if I could just get some bullets.... Overall, I agree, many people are freaking out over what amounts to BS.
If there were already a ban on direct internet sales, one would think Cuomo would not be saying that that restriction was added by his pet legislation that will require an FFL to do the transfer. Again, it will come down to how they define ammunition.
http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/01152013-outline-of-nys-groundbreaking-gun-legislation
"To track high-volume ammunition purchasers, the legislation will make New York the first state in the nation to track ammo purchases in real time. All dealers in ammunition must be registered with the State Police, and each sale will require both a state background check and transmission of a record of the sale to State Police, so as to enable alerts of high volume purchases. Ammunition records will be purged within a year of submission. Dealers must report any loss of inventory. The legislation will also include a ban on direct internet sales of ammunition. Ammunition ordered over the internet must be delivered in a face-to-face transaction with a firearms dealer and the purchaser will be subject to the state background check. The Aurora shooter reportedly amassed 6000 rounds through direct online purchases."
Anyway, that is enough of that and sorry for the off topic. I have my primers, I even have a little powder left, now if I could just get some bullets.... Overall, I agree, many people are freaking out over what amounts to BS.
Bluehighways
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Stopped by Scheels in Eau Claire, WI last night and the bullets were nearly cleaned out.
I was, however, happy to see that both their cabinets of powder were nearly full. They had plenty of IMR 3031 and 4895. The only powder they were really out of was Varget.
They also had a full stock of primers in the display case, with full shelves of everything except small rifle.
I've been pretty lucky so far with the run on supplies. I bought a crap-ton of primers with last year's tax returns, I've got my dies and 5 years worth of range picked brass all cleaned and tumbled.
I manage (so far) to get powder when I want it, and I buy more than I use so my stash gets better each time I stop in. Since I don't shoot .223 I haven't had a terrible time finding supplies, with bullets being the one exception.
I was, however, happy to see that both their cabinets of powder were nearly full. They had plenty of IMR 3031 and 4895. The only powder they were really out of was Varget.
They also had a full stock of primers in the display case, with full shelves of everything except small rifle.
I've been pretty lucky so far with the run on supplies. I bought a crap-ton of primers with last year's tax returns, I've got my dies and 5 years worth of range picked brass all cleaned and tumbled.
I manage (so far) to get powder when I want it, and I buy more than I use so my stash gets better each time I stop in. Since I don't shoot .223 I haven't had a terrible time finding supplies, with bullets being the one exception.
907arcticcat
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Not everyone shoots 200 rounds per year! I buy ahead a couple years to hedge against price increases, reduce shipping fees and short term supply issues, so in my case 50,000 primers is not panic buying....really
So right.... and I am not a 'large quantity' shooter either and I put only around 3000-5000 Big Bore down range each year depending.... And that isn't counting the .22LR which is at least a couple times that ..... I just don't get out and shoot 'much' like some others, unfortunately.
And that's a problem that needs to be tracked?
I shoot that or more over the year. One day I can easily burn a couple bulk packs of .22LR ... or 1100 per day. And I don't even have to use a semi-auto to shoot it! Normally I burn around 200-300 or so... as I don't have all afternoon to shoot. Not much ammo at all ... in the long run. If I 'only' shot 100 rounds a week that is 5200 rounds for the year..... Not much.
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