The Uberti's prefer a slightly larger ball. .454 as opposed to the Pietta's .451. To compare the two properly would take more than one of each though. Like any gun, there will be some that shoot better than others. To have a good shooter from one brand vs an average shooter from another, isn't really a good way to compare. As a generality, I'm not sure which brand is the most accurate, but I think I'd put my money on Uberti for now. Pietta has been catching up by leaps and bounds in the quality department though, so who knows how it'll end up.
Proper loading for a Cap n' Ball revolver?
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The Uberti's prefer a slightly larger ball. .454 as opposed to the Pietta's .451. To compare the two properly would take more than one of each though. Like any gun, there will be some that shoot better than others. To have a good shooter from one brand vs an average shooter from another, isn't really a good way to compare. As a generality, I'm not sure which brand is the most accurate, but I think I'd put my money on Uberti for now. Pietta has been catching up by leaps and bounds in the quality department though, so who knows how it'll end up.
Mykeal - that 1861 Navy is one handsome gun!
I'm considering an Uberti 1862 Police simply because it feels so nice in the hand. Almost like a civil-war era J-frame!
Does anyone have any feedback about the 1862 Police? Seems like it'd be a lot of fun for campsite plinking.
I'm considering an Uberti 1862 Police simply because it feels so nice in the hand. Almost like a civil-war era J-frame!
Does anyone have any feedback about the 1862 Police? Seems like it'd be a lot of fun for campsite plinking.Attachments
1862 Police
BillCA - here's mine:
Fine gun, very well balanced, carries extremely well, points naturally and fits my hand well. Excellent choice for short range plinking and carrying all day long. Not terribly accurate at longer range (25 yds or more) but you can shoot it all day long without discomfort (depending of course on the powder and the need to clean out fouling). Not a very powerful gun at all, but sometimes that's best.
BillCA - here's mine:
Fine gun, very well balanced, carries extremely well, points naturally and fits my hand well. Excellent choice for short range plinking and carrying all day long. Not terribly accurate at longer range (25 yds or more) but you can shoot it all day long without discomfort (depending of course on the powder and the need to clean out fouling). Not a very powerful gun at all, but sometimes that's best.
My loading sequence is as follows:
Charge, Filler (grits if using a reduced charge), lube pill and ball.
The lube pills I make using a mix of bees wax, crisco and parafin.
As for a first gun... you cant go wrong with the 58 New Army or 60 Army...
A Walker is fun too, and if your heart is set on it, then go for it.
Charge, Filler (grits if using a reduced charge), lube pill and ball.
The lube pills I make using a mix of bees wax, crisco and parafin.
As for a first gun... you cant go wrong with the 58 New Army or 60 Army...
A Walker is fun too, and if your heart is set on it, then go for it.
FortKnoxWales
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Well.......
I hadn't read anything back when I bought my first 1861 Nickel .36cal "Colt" replica.....I asked around and followed their instructions. Depending on the performance you want, the accuracy(all of those things aren't any of my current primary concerns) and the desired recoil, which don't seem to be much for any blackpowder pistol I've owned, I've seated the ball firmly, but directly onto the powder charge without a wad, sealed the end of each chamber with Thompson Center Bore Butter and shot away. I've owned a '58 Remington, '51 Colt Navy, '61 Colt sheriff's, and I've added a Uberti Walker to the line as a gift from my wife for Christmas........little early but fun nevertheless. With all of these pistols, I've never had any bad luck with this loading technique. Due to my lack of concern for accuracy and recoil, I've never actually used a powder measure to load either, as long as the ball was seated below the front of the cylinder..............though I wouldn't at all recommend "eyeballing it" as a common loading practice.
I hope I've been of at least some help.
I hadn't read anything back when I bought my first 1861 Nickel .36cal "Colt" replica.....I asked around and followed their instructions. Depending on the performance you want, the accuracy(all of those things aren't any of my current primary concerns) and the desired recoil, which don't seem to be much for any blackpowder pistol I've owned, I've seated the ball firmly, but directly onto the powder charge without a wad, sealed the end of each chamber with Thompson Center Bore Butter and shot away. I've owned a '58 Remington, '51 Colt Navy, '61 Colt sheriff's, and I've added a Uberti Walker to the line as a gift from my wife for Christmas........little early but fun nevertheless. With all of these pistols, I've never had any bad luck with this loading technique. Due to my lack of concern for accuracy and recoil, I've never actually used a powder measure to load either, as long as the ball was seated below the front of the cylinder..............though I wouldn't at all recommend "eyeballing it" as a common loading practice.
I hope I've been of at least some help.
angeldeville
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I'm a big fan of the '58 Remingtons, so much that I opted for Rugers improvement of it, look for them used, I got a great deal on my 1977 unfired.
If you are dead set on a Walker, look at a Dragoon Model, they are an improvement over the Walker, Uberti is the best manufacturer, and are imported under Navy Arms, as well as the Uberti name.
I've always used the grease method, I may try the wads someday.
a .32 or .36 cal is next on the list for me.
If you are dead set on a Walker, look at a Dragoon Model, they are an improvement over the Walker, Uberti is the best manufacturer, and are imported under Navy Arms, as well as the Uberti name.
I've always used the grease method, I may try the wads someday.
a .32 or .36 cal is next on the list for me.
I don't like the Rugers. Nothing wrong with them, they're reliable and tough, just not historically accurate. Piettas quality is right up there with Uberti now. In fact I've seen some Piettas with better finishes that Uberti. New Piettas also like a .454 ball. I prefer a wad under the ball as it's less messy but some say accuracy is better without it. I can't tell a difference. If you want to shoot heavy loads stick with a steel frame.
Pietta 1860
Pietta 58
Pietta 1860
Pietta 58
If you are considering a Uberti 1858, which is an excellent first revolver, check out their "World Class" series. They offer a Stainless Steel 1858 with engraving. I have one that shoots 2" groups on a good day at 25yds. using a rest.
If you want a Colt don't forget about the 2nd generation "Colts". They are top of the line. There is the 3rd generation also, I have a 3rd. gen. 1860 that is a great pistol. You can find them on the gun auctions.
You mentioned a brass frame, everyone talks against them, saying they will not hold up under heavy loads.
I have a 2nd gen. Colt Walker and have not had any problems at all, no lever drop even using 60grns. of powder, if may start later, but so far it is great. It is just heavy and hard to handle, I wouldn't buy it for a first pistol, but do get one later.
When I started I got all the info. I could and decided to use a lube pill between the powder and ball, it has worked great. No chain fires, no greasy mess.
I bought 4 in this order.
1. 3rd gen. Colt 1860
2. Uberti World Class 1858
3. 2nd gen. Colt 1851
4. 2nd gen. Colt Walker
If you want a Colt don't forget about the 2nd generation "Colts". They are top of the line. There is the 3rd generation also, I have a 3rd. gen. 1860 that is a great pistol. You can find them on the gun auctions.
You mentioned a brass frame, everyone talks against them, saying they will not hold up under heavy loads.
I have a 2nd gen. Colt Walker and have not had any problems at all, no lever drop even using 60grns. of powder, if may start later, but so far it is great. It is just heavy and hard to handle, I wouldn't buy it for a first pistol, but do get one later.
When I started I got all the info. I could and decided to use a lube pill between the powder and ball, it has worked great. No chain fires, no greasy mess.
I bought 4 in this order.
1. 3rd gen. Colt 1860
2. Uberti World Class 1858
3. 2nd gen. Colt 1851
4. 2nd gen. Colt Walker
Not knocking the third generation signature series but there's much cheaper guns to be had. The third gen. is a Colt in name only. Colt had nothing to do with the manufacture or fitting of these guns. Uberti made the parts for the secend gen. and shipped them to Colt where the final fit, assembly and finish took place at their factory in Hartford. They unlike the third gen. are considered to be true Colts