Pietta 1860 Colt ball size?
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Raider2000
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A .454 ball will be a good starting point because most replica .44 caliber revolvers will have chambers ranging .445 - .451 diameter & will take that ball nicely with a ring of lead shaved off for a good seal, some with the smaller chambers will accept the .451 ball & seal nicely but I also have a older 3rd. Model Dragoon that has .453 chambers & require the .457 ball to make a good seal "kinda why I've stuck with the .457 ball mold for so long" but to be honest since you have the revolver there with you, you will have to find out which size it'll take best.
Good luck & safe FUN shooting.
Good luck & safe FUN shooting.
long rider
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You know all the time i have been on this forum i
keep reading all you guys saying ( i came across
this gun, i got this good deal, some one give me
this good deal,) what the heck,
i must be
looking in the wrong state? i more or less
have to pay a arm and a leg to get a good deal
on a hand gun, but i can get good deals on bp
and caps, but sometimes i would like to come
across a really good deal on a smoke pole,
hey just venting my wife says i dont need more
bp pistols, and i say WHOS BOSS.
keep reading all you guys saying ( i came across
this gun, i got this good deal, some one give me
this good deal,) what the heck,
i must belooking in the wrong state?
i more or lesshave to pay a arm and a leg to get a good deal
on a hand gun, but i can get good deals on bp
and caps, but sometimes i would like to come
across a really good deal on a smoke pole,
hey just venting my wife says i dont need more
bp pistols
, and i say WHOS BOSS.There are not generally any premium values attached to unfired Italian replica revolvers except very unusual and rare specimens. You might contact the Replica Percussion Revolver Collector's Association (RPRCA) to find out for sure, however.
thanks... i've got .454 and .457 balls...
What I thought. I just didn't want to be the moron who broke some collector's heart.
Long Rider, relax, I paid real yankee greenbacks for it. It was a fair price that both the seller and I parted friends. I find some "deals" but its usually because I spent time and gas hunting through garage sales and pawn shops. in other words, it woulda been cheaper to buy it at Cabelas. (except I HATE buying new... I just like second-hand stuff.)
In fact, I was a little upset when I looked this 1860 over and saw the nipples, chambers and barrel was pristine. Fortunately, over the years handling had put some small dings, scratches and dust on it. My favorite revs have lots of mileage on 'em and look it.
What I thought. I just didn't want to be the moron who broke some collector's heart.
Long Rider, relax, I paid real yankee greenbacks for it. It was a fair price that both the seller and I parted friends. I find some "deals" but its usually because I spent time and gas hunting through garage sales and pawn shops. in other words, it woulda been cheaper to buy it at Cabelas. (except I HATE buying new... I just like second-hand stuff.)
In fact, I was a little upset when I looked this 1860 over and saw the nipples, chambers and barrel was pristine. Fortunately, over the years handling had put some small dings, scratches and dust on it. My favorite revs have lots of mileage on 'em and look it.
I have a Pietta 1858 and have had great results with .451 Speer balls. The ring is uniform around the chamber. I don't see why some want a massive ring of lead that needs to be cleaned away when a small ring accomplishes the same thing.
Pyrodex
Wonder Wads
.451 balls
Rem #11 caps
Booooooom
Pyrodex
Wonder Wads
.451 balls
Rem #11 caps
Booooooom
I need an updated foto. Already browned the cyl. pin and screw heads, but I'm on the fence about the hammer. I think that '58 needs a new hammer spring, but I don't know what Italian manu. it is. Takes Pietta nips, but doesn't have the same dimensions as a Pietta '58 that I have. ??? Absolutely no markings except Navy Arms. Maybe its ASM.
Yeah, I had half a box of 451s that seemed to shoot fine out of my Uberti '58.
It's not going to be any tighter if the .451 is a tight fit. The chamber is going to swage them both to the same size. It will make the shaved part longer giving the rifling more bearing surface. Once a ball is loaded it's no longer round. It's more like a conical rounded on both ends. .451 may work fine in your revolver but I have three and only one will shave a full ring with a .451
True... but you HAVE increased the mass in the cylinder. If you haven't, then a .451 would have fit just fine. More metal has gone in, compressed size or not, and must be removed by explosive compressive force.
Why not cram a hot dog into it? Why...? You would never get the damn thing out.
In short, all of this influences ballistics.
Why not cram a hot dog into it? Why...? You would never get the damn thing out.
In short, all of this influences ballistics.
Smokin_Gun
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Ron use a corn dog and you have a filler
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You're not getting it Ron. When you load a .454 ball you're shaving the excess off. I said swaging, I guess that wasn't exactly right. The point is if a .451 fits tight the .454 isn't going to be any tighter and as for extra mass it's negligible.
However if you have a .451 that only shaves a thin ring it may move under recoil and lock your cylinder up. Some guns can get by with a .451 but of my three only one can. The Pietta manual that came with my 60 Colt recommends a .454 ball.
However if you have a .451 that only shaves a thin ring it may move under recoil and lock your cylinder up. Some guns can get by with a .451 but of my three only one can. The Pietta manual that came with my 60 Colt recommends a .454 ball.
Smokin_Gun
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I have found that Pietta .44's take a .451" or LEE .452' ball, may take a .454", .36 take a .375", .380"s are too tight but will go in, Uberti .44's take a .454" will take .457", .36 take .380", Euroarms/Armi San Paolo take .457", .36 take .380". Colt & Uberti Dragoons and Walkers take .457" Balls.
Hey there Hawg!
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Hey there Hawg!
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