Mike Irwin
Staff
I make that it's not going to affect my reloading in the least because I rarely load rifle ammunition anymore and, when I do, I'm very happy with IMR 4064, so I see no need to change.
Over-All Top Accuracy Powder
- Thread starter Brian Pfleuger
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No cheating here Pete!
Check my thread "Powder and manual questions", I don't have a Lyman manual. I did do some reading on Hodgdon's website after your "hint". An answer to my thread would be appreciated since you have the manual I am considering.
Now to your question.
1. Who can't shoot 4350 well?......nobody!!!
2. Varget shoots real well in my buudy's 22-250
3. I have had zero luck with Re-22
3. (again) Never used the stuff
4. Ditto and obviously a good guess
5. Re-19 just starting to have good results with the stuff
Well, I'm waiting for the cheating retraction and the congrats on 3 out of 6!
My go to powder is H4831SC.....for the record.
Check my thread "Powder and manual questions", I don't have a Lyman manual. I did do some reading on Hodgdon's website after your "hint". An answer to my thread would be appreciated since you have the manual I am considering.
Now to your question.
1. Who can't shoot 4350 well?......nobody!!!
2. Varget shoots real well in my buudy's 22-250
3. I have had zero luck with Re-22
3. (again) Never used the stuff
4. Ditto and obviously a good guess
5. Re-19 just starting to have good results with the stuff
Well, I'm waiting for the cheating retraction and the congrats on 3 out of 6!
My go to powder is H4831SC.....for the record.
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
I was just kidding about the cheater business.
Congratulations! You've won..... uh,....... well.....
An answer to your thread! Yes! That's what you've won.... if I have an answer for you, that is!
It was a fun exercise, but I have real trouble making ANYTHING of that list. It's Lyman's work-ups and results using specific components in specific test receivers. It may show a trend but rifle accuracy being what it is, I think we can (almost?) all agree that anything they publish could be beaten by someone else in a different powder by tweaking something, somewhere.
The variables, especially in rifle handloading are almost endless.
As for how I would use the information? It's my belief that rifle accuracy, for my needs, reaches a point where "good enough" is plenty good enough. Being a handgun guy most of the time, rifle accuracy is almost like cheating. Fine rifle accuracy and beyond is the kind of accuracy I'm unlikely to see considering what I'm working with and the kind of shooting I'm doing. For the folks shooting matches and 400-1000 yards, I can see where they need to set goals well beyond mine.
When trying to pick a rifle powder, I look at things like FPS, and FPS/pressure, charge weight, load data availability and how well I can meter it.
(okay, I'll be honest, my first pick is usually, "what do I have on hand?!")
The variables, especially in rifle handloading are almost endless.
As for how I would use the information? It's my belief that rifle accuracy, for my needs, reaches a point where "good enough" is plenty good enough. Being a handgun guy most of the time, rifle accuracy is almost like cheating. Fine rifle accuracy and beyond is the kind of accuracy I'm unlikely to see considering what I'm working with and the kind of shooting I'm doing. For the folks shooting matches and 400-1000 yards, I can see where they need to set goals well beyond mine.
When trying to pick a rifle powder, I look at things like FPS, and FPS/pressure, charge weight, load data availability and how well I can meter it.
(okay, I'll be honest, my first pick is usually, "what do I have on hand?!"
)Dr. Strangelove
New member
Wow, I use 4 out of the six listed regularly! I wish I had been able to just read this list instead of trying them all...
Well, not really - it was still fun...
Well, not really - it was still fun...
mrawesome22
New member
No doubt. It seems like almost every page has 4064 on it.
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
4064 was 24th on the list....
7 recommended loads.
7 recommended loads.
mrawesome22
New member
You have too much free time Peet. LOL
mustang66maniac
New member
Just out of curiousity, what were those loads?
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
Sorry, I have no idea.
I simply looked for the bold print indicating a potential accuracy load and wrote down the powder. I was paying not particular attention to the cartridge in question.
3 stick rifle powders, one single base two double base
1 spherical double base rifle powder
1 handgun/reduced rifle powder
The stick powders have it I guess. IMR/Hogdon and Alliant both have two powders in the top 5, Accurate has one.
However, the point here shouldn't be that the powder is accurate, but that a large cross section of rounds are accurate with a given powder. It's a fine distinction.
Users of IMR 4064 (another stick rifle powder) should feel bad that their powder isn't on this list, plenty of high power shooters have won matches with 4064. The same could be said for 4895.
Jimro
1 spherical double base rifle powder
1 handgun/reduced rifle powder
The stick powders have it I guess. IMR/Hogdon and Alliant both have two powders in the top 5, Accurate has one.
However, the point here shouldn't be that the powder is accurate, but that a large cross section of rounds are accurate with a given powder. It's a fine distinction.
Users of IMR 4064 (another stick rifle powder) should feel bad that their powder isn't on this list, plenty of high power shooters have won matches with 4064. The same could be said for 4895.
Jimro
Edward429451
Moderator
I bet one of them was
.308 Win
42.5 gr IMR-4064
180 gr BT
That was an Olympic load and presumably set many records. I accidently happened into that but my load was 41.5 grains and was wicked accurate. My son took an Elk with that load
Brian Pfleuger
Moderator Emeritus
180gr BT (Nosler) accuracy load is IMR4895 42.5gr, also listed as max load
4064 is not listed as ANY accuracy load for the 308.
Oddly enough.