No wonder the Democrats Fear Sarah Palin.

[Saab1911]

Yes, fear is the right word.

I was puzzled as to how so many people could hate a decent, honest, God
fearing woman that they barely know, but I think I know now. The Democrats
fear Sarah Palin. The Democrats fear Sarah Palin. The Democrats fear Sarah
Palin.

Next time you see a Democrat, try whispering "Sarah Palin" instead of BOO.

They will jump so high that if they had a Ball they could dunk it.

The polls show that if it were a four person race, Sarah Palin would win.

The Democrats nominated a man who has done nothing and have voted
Present on controversial issues. They thought they were very clever.
They thought that if they nominated someone who has done nothing other
than write about doing nothing, he couldn't be beaten.

But now, the Obamessiah is being beaten by a girl.

That's why Democrats fear Sarah Palin, and just like the Russians' hatred
of the Germans during WWII, the Democrats' hatred of Sarah Palin arises
from their intense fear of the woman.

<<shame>> <<shame>>

Cheers,

Jae

 

[Playboypenguin]

Maybe a lot of people agree with the founding fathers that devoutly religious people make bad politicians. That they will, by their very nature, serve their church and their god before they serve the interests of the people.

 

[miboso]

And nowhere is that more apparent than in the religion of Big Government.

 

[O6nop]

Just heard that Sarah's acceptance speech totaled more viewers than the olympic opening ceremonies.

 

[Alleykat]

Maybe a lot of people agree with the founding fathers that devoutly religious people make bad politicians. That they will, by their very nature, serve their church and their god before they serve the interests of the people.
__________________

I'm not a devoutly religious person, but I'm not aware of the Founders' saying that devoutly religious persons don't make good leaders. How about a link to something?

 

[MyGunsJammed]

Hilary and the Democrats from NY are planning to verbally attack Palin.....

 

[Charles S]

Maybe a lot of people agree with the founding fathers that devoutly religious people make bad politicians. That they will, by their very nature, serve their church and their god before they serve the interests of the people.

While I know your tendencies that is a statement of pure ignorance. Have you ever been to Washington D.C. The references to God and religion are everywhere....

Please cite information to back up that statement. LOL

 

[LightningJoe]

I don't think they've learned to fear her. Yet. They reject her because she doesn't have the basic credentials to play the game. No famous family. No ivy league degree. No debt of gratitude to Liberal largesse. Can't pronounce the sh in shibboleth. Might understand that reference.


Will they come fear her eventually?

 

[Socrates]

Somebodies got to say Obama is unqualified for office, since he has two young children, and, his wife works all the time, so, who takes care of the kids???

 

[wingman]

Maybe a lot of people agree with the founding fathers that devoutly religious people make bad politicians. That they will, by their very nature, serve their church and their god before they serve the interests of the people.

Huh.:barf:

 

[Socrates]

Founders had the strange idea that each state would be a place of like minded, or religious folks to gather. They didn't want a King of Federal government, imposing a Church of the United States, with the president Pope.
They had had enough of that with the Church of England, and, the King declaring he was pretty much the Pope of England.

Considering religion is the basis for most of morality and ethics, and, that most of the founders were deeply religious,
I think that is perhaps one of the more absurd statements I've scene from you in awhile, and, that's saying something.

Just a reminder:

PBP did his homework, we just disagree on what we read in what his research shows...

That said, Sarah Palin has THE VOICE. I don't get to see her, since we don't have TV anymore, but, listening to her on the radio, she has a REAL gift
in her voice, her logic, and her ability to think on her feet. I think a lot of this comes from her religious convictions, in that she believes strongly in her faith, and, in her conclusions. It also comes from youth, when things appear to be more black and white.
I get the feeling with Obama that he will say anything you want to hear to get your vote, but, it just comes out as a wet noodle, limp, and, unconvincing. Obama has tried to keep from letting anyone really know what his position is on anything, so, he can say whatever he has to to get votes, and win the election. His changes of position, on issues are none more evident then in his 2A amendment drivel.

I think the American people sense her passion, conviction, and belief, and, her actions have matched her rhetoric...

 

[Playboypenguin]

Founders had the strange idea that each state would be a place of like minded, or religious folks to gather. They didn't want a King of Federal government, imposing a Church of the United States, with the president Pope.
They had had enough of that with the Church of England, and, the King declaring he was pretty much the Pope of England.

Considering religion is the basis for most of morality and ethics, and, that most of the founders were deeply religious,
I think that is perhaps one of the more absurd statements I've scene from you in awhile, and, that's saying something.

You are way off base. You are working on a common misconception that many people want to cling to despite the fact that it is not a very stable stance to take. First, many of the founders write in their personal/private papers that they have no true belief in a supreme being. It is just something that is expected of a leader in these days and times. Second, many also come straight out and say that religious men make bad leaders. They do not just base their stance on a governing religion. They plainly say that devoutly religious men will serve their church and their god before serving the needs of the people.

 

[Dustinthewind]

The socialist (a.k.a. Democratic) party has reason to fear Sarah Palin as she is a worthy adversary. Palin is as Republican as it gets. McCain is more of a moderate, but together they make a formidable team.

Maybe a lot of people agree with the founding fathers that devoutly religious people make bad politicians. That they will, by their very nature, serve their church and their god before they serve the interests of the people.

PBP

I would venture to guess that most of our founding fathers were also regular church goers. You have to remember that during our countries founding, books were a luxury. The one book that was worthy of the trip from the old country was the Bible and everybody had one and read it and could probably quote scripture from it.
I am not a religious man,( only going to church for weddings and funerals) but we could use God on our side to help combat Fedzilla and the socialists that threaten to take over this country. Also I find it hard to believe that a member of this community with a love for guns would defend Obama. McCain and Palin are not perfect but who is? To quote Ted Nugent, One boat is full of holes and will definetilly sink, the other has a hole that I can poke my finger in and make it across the bay, that boat being McCain.

 

[Playboypenguin]

Just a few examples before people start screaming for proof. I am sure the devout will find some reason to ignore the reality but I have a few free minutes.

John Adams (the second President of the United States)

Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."

"The Doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."

"...Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.

Thomas Jefferson (the third President of the United States)

Jefferson's interpretation of the first amendment in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association (January 1, 1802):
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."

From Thomas Jefferson's Bible:
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."

James Madison (the fourth President of the United States)

"Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."

Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments:
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise....During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."

I could go on and fill this thread with similar quotes but I think those with open minds will get the picture and the ones with closed ones would only continue to ignore.

 

[rickomatic]

Playboy,
In all seriousness. Why are you such a religious bigot? What ever happened to "live and let live"?

 

[Playboypenguin]

In all seriousness. Why are you such a religious bigot? What ever happened to "live and let live"?

I am not a religious bigot. Most of my family is very religious and so are many of our friends. I also have many family friends and a grandfather that are ministers and pastors. I have great relationships with them.

I just do not like people who put forth fallacies and fail to correct themselves or admit their error when proven wrong. So many people try to use the false conception that this country was founded on christianity to enforce their opinions on others. When was the last time you saw the religious right "live and let live?" Seems to me they keep trying to impose their morality on others through legislation. When have you ever seen any try to pass a law that says you cannot live your life by religious values?

You might want to get more information before accusing someone of being a bigot.

 

[Crosshair]

Check out the Democratic Underground forums, it is getting VILE the stuff they are posting. Not of it substantiated or with documentation to back it up. Or they mix in a speck of truth and distort the hell out of it.

It seems that they are downright scared of Sarah Palin.

 

[Socrates]

I read the same quotes and see people of different faith, trying to downplay the importance of that faith, and, try to come to a common ground, where a new nation can be established.

I see genius, in recognizing that Religion is the one area that cannot be negotiated, and, that if made an issue, that it has the potential to rip the nation apart, in it's early stages.

As for the potential for destruction to both people, and, property, the founders certainly had plenty of absurd, violent,
and dogmatic behavior to justify a reasonable fear of the downside of religion. I've often said, true or not, that more people have been killed in the name of God and faith then any other single issue in history. We can start with the Romans, and Greeks, go to the Crusades, and, the Spanish Inquisition. From there, we have Croatia, Iraq, the Middle East, etc.

I think I'm on pretty good footing with that statement, if it wasn't for Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Lenin...

OH, and excellent research PBP. I will delete the above statement...

By the way, I find Atheists to be just as bigoted in their trying to hammer home that there is no God, as those that believe can be in their religion.
You want illogic? Put an Atheist and a radical Muslim in the same room with a KKK member, and, let them fight it out...

The Constitution teaches tolerance for others beliefs, and religions, and, that they should be allowed to speak freely of those beliefs, and views.
A zealot is just as distructive, be he religious, Atheist, or Facist. By the way, I live in, and have been around, ground zero for facist-liberalism for a long time. The same concept of liberal is preverted, when it stops others from expressing their views, by trying to legislate against others expression of their views.

 

[Playboypenguin]

Check out the Democratic Underground forums, it is getting VILE the stuff they are posting. Not of it substantiated or with documentation to back it up. Or they mix in a speck of truth and distort the hell out of it.

They will end up hanging themselves on many issues, just like sites such as WND also do. I doubt anyone except extreme leftists take them seriously.

 

[MedicineBow]

Check out the Democratic Underground forums

Or check out right wing forums.

Or check out left wing forums.

Or check out what various loony partisans say.

Or check out even some of the posts on this forum.

I guess you'd conclude people are scared of Obama, of Biden, of McCain, and of Palin.

Free speech is a messy something, eh?