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HOKIEHUNTER
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I know a lot of people like them or hate them, but I would get a 7mm WSM over a rem mag.
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oneeyeross
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None of the above
My next will probably be in 8X57, 6.5X55, 7.5X55, 7.62X54R or 30.06....
(Yes, I am a Luddite with a C&R)
My next will probably be in 8X57, 6.5X55, 7.5X55, 7.62X54R or 30.06....
(Yes, I am a Luddite with a C&R)
carolinaflats
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What are you going to use the rifle for?
for hunting you have the .243 for varmints, maybe deer; the .308 for deer, pronghorn, similar sized game. Next would be a .300 Win Mag or 7mm Rem Mag for Elk, Moose, Caribou, etc. Then a .338?
For fun, I like milsurp rifles so you have a .308, so I'd go with 7.62x39, or .30-06, 8mm, etc.
Like they said, what'cha gonna do wit it?
For fun, I like milsurp rifles so you have a .308, so I'd go with 7.62x39, or .30-06, 8mm, etc.
Like they said, what'cha gonna do wit it?
Smokey Joe
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You have the light and medium cartridges covered, sooo...
Think about a big bore rifle. My reccommendation would be .35 Whelan Ackley Improved--big honkin' bullet, and the AI version is one of the most efficient there is in terms of velocity gained for each grain of bullet, with each grain of powder. And unlike the big magnums, it won't knock you flat on your a** or break your shoulder each time you fire it.
You'll probably have to have a custom bbl made for you--hey, is that a bad thing??? Nooo! While you're at it, have the action you use "blueprinted," by which the gunsmiths mean the bolt face is made EXACTLY perpendicular to the bore; the bolt lugs are EXACTLY paralled to the bolt face; the bolt slides beautifully in and out, etc, etc. I'd go w/a commercial Mauser action made for .30-'06; it'll take the Whelan cartridge w/no modification. If you wanted a Rem 700 action instead, so be it. Krieger Barrels can blueprint the action and install a custom bbl and headspace it for you all in one fell swoop. I'd go with their double cryo bbl treatment while you're at it.
Lotsa stock makers do stocks for the commercial Mauser and everybody does stocks for the Rem. I'm a sucker for wood, so I like the Boyd's laminate stocks. Obviously you want it glass or aluminum bedded, and an after-market trigger. And it's going to be worthy of the best optics you can afford for it.
Lotta hassle? You betcha! But you'll have a tackdriver like nobody else's, shooting a heavy bullet you can use on the heaviest game in N Amer. I fail to see a downside to that!
Think about a big bore rifle. My reccommendation would be .35 Whelan Ackley Improved--big honkin' bullet, and the AI version is one of the most efficient there is in terms of velocity gained for each grain of bullet, with each grain of powder. And unlike the big magnums, it won't knock you flat on your a** or break your shoulder each time you fire it.
You'll probably have to have a custom bbl made for you--hey, is that a bad thing??? Nooo! While you're at it, have the action you use "blueprinted," by which the gunsmiths mean the bolt face is made EXACTLY perpendicular to the bore; the bolt lugs are EXACTLY paralled to the bolt face; the bolt slides beautifully in and out, etc, etc. I'd go w/a commercial Mauser action made for .30-'06; it'll take the Whelan cartridge w/no modification. If you wanted a Rem 700 action instead, so be it. Krieger Barrels can blueprint the action and install a custom bbl and headspace it for you all in one fell swoop. I'd go with their double cryo bbl treatment while you're at it.
Lotsa stock makers do stocks for the commercial Mauser and everybody does stocks for the Rem. I'm a sucker for wood, so I like the Boyd's laminate stocks. Obviously you want it glass or aluminum bedded, and an after-market trigger. And it's going to be worthy of the best optics you can afford for it.
Lotta hassle? You betcha! But you'll have a tackdriver like nobody else's, shooting a heavy bullet you can use on the heaviest game in N Amer. I fail to see a downside to that!
BusGunner007
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Browning BAR MkII Safari/Stalker/whatever in .338 Win.Mag.
Autoloading, gas-operated, soft-shooting tackdriver.
Autoloading, gas-operated, soft-shooting tackdriver.
A big bore....
Actually, Smokey, I think of the .35 as a medium bore. I just built a .35 Whelan on a VZ-24 action, it shoots none too bad. Still in the white, I get just under 2" at 100 yards with a baseline load of 4064 and a Nosler 225 grn Ballistic Tip. (just couldn't wait to shoot it, and I plan on using 225 grn Partitions on anything larger than whitetail) Much more impressive a trigger pull than any of my other "big game" rifles, it rocks you but doesn't hurt you. I'm a little disappointed in the stock, its a Boyd's, but the walnut is very soft, with a very open grain. Won't take 22 LPI checkering like the Fajen I have on my Swede.
Trigger45 may be well served with the .350 Remington, it matches or betters the Whelan, in a shorter action. Nothing on the continent will escape given proper bullet placement.
However, I'm thinking that for my next rifle, a Marlin in .45-70 is just what I need. Because lever guns are cool, I don't have one (!), and ancient cartridges are well, cool too.
Actually, Smokey, I think of the .35 as a medium bore. I just built a .35 Whelan on a VZ-24 action, it shoots none too bad. Still in the white, I get just under 2" at 100 yards with a baseline load of 4064 and a Nosler 225 grn Ballistic Tip. (just couldn't wait to shoot it, and I plan on using 225 grn Partitions on anything larger than whitetail) Much more impressive a trigger pull than any of my other "big game" rifles, it rocks you but doesn't hurt you. I'm a little disappointed in the stock, its a Boyd's, but the walnut is very soft, with a very open grain. Won't take 22 LPI checkering like the Fajen I have on my Swede.
Trigger45 may be well served with the .350 Remington, it matches or betters the Whelan, in a shorter action. Nothing on the continent will escape given proper bullet placement.
However, I'm thinking that for my next rifle, a Marlin in .45-70 is just what I need. Because lever guns are cool, I don't have one (!), and ancient cartridges are well, cool too.
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The BAR Safari grade 338 win mag is a soft recoiling rifle, especially if it has the boss system, ( I have one and like it). It being a tack driver will lead to a bit of discussion. It's fun to shoot, but a tack driver it's not.
Go with the natural progression of firearm purchase. Go to a 7mm mag in a bolt action.
If you want an auto loader, which every collection should have, I'd suggest getting the BAR in 7mm mag. Then think ahead and get a 300/338 ultra mag if you reload, or a 300 win mag if you don't.
Go with the natural progression of firearm purchase. Go to a 7mm mag in a bolt action.
If you want an auto loader, which every collection should have, I'd suggest getting the BAR in 7mm mag. Then think ahead and get a 300/338 ultra mag if you reload, or a 300 win mag if you don't.
BusGunner007
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It's difficult not being repetitious on the internet, but I have to agree about the 7mm Rem.Mag. BAR:
This is my 'nicest' rifle.
It has great wood, which I removed to preserve it.
The Bell&Carlson 2-pc. stock gives the rifle a wickedly sleek profile, contrasting nicely with the high polished metalwork.
It has Browning's excellent polished blue finish.
The BOSS is unique.
The 'engraving' makes a nice statement about the quality of the gun.
I used Millett 'engraved' rings in the Angle-Loc format for the BAR.
Topped with the Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14x40 gloss scope, it makes for an attractive, but powerful rifle that can be used for varmints and big game alike when the BOSS is tuned for the load needed at the time.
This is my 'nicest' rifle.
It has great wood, which I removed to preserve it.
The Bell&Carlson 2-pc. stock gives the rifle a wickedly sleek profile, contrasting nicely with the high polished metalwork.
It has Browning's excellent polished blue finish.
The BOSS is unique.
The 'engraving' makes a nice statement about the quality of the gun.
I used Millett 'engraved' rings in the Angle-Loc format for the BAR.
Topped with the Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14x40 gloss scope, it makes for an attractive, but powerful rifle that can be used for varmints and big game alike when the BOSS is tuned for the load needed at the time.
Smokey Joe
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Beee-youtiful!
Shorthair, that is one lovely rifle! Classic and businesslike. Way to go.
Shorthair, that is one lovely rifle! Classic and businesslike. Way to go.
Looks like you're fixed up through deer of any type, including the occasional elk hunt when you're caught w/o something larger. You don't mention it as a choice(s), but I'd say next: .300 Win Mag, .300 RUM or .35 Whelen, the latter just to be "different" with a classic cartridge - not every one has one These can handle any North American big game over deer. Then, next, the classic .375 H&H "just because" for that mythical big game hunt overseas! Also good medicine for the dangerous Alaskan stuff. But, if only one slot is left to be filled, hard to go wrong with a .338 WM. Problem with the 7 is that -- assumng only one slot left to fill -- the 7's not that much different than the .308 -- there's not much a 7mm Mag can do a .308 with right bullet choice and barrel length can't. "Deer and below" taken care of , the .300s + are much better "elk and above" specialists. Now, if you changed the rules and said a "one gun only battery," the 7mm Mag would be back in the game - along with the 30-06--both can be down and uploaded to be pretty versatile rounds.
These can handle any North American big game over deer. Then, next, the classic .375 H&H "just because" for that mythical big game hunt overseas! Also good medicine for the dangerous Alaskan stuff. But, if only one slot is left to be filled, hard to go wrong with a .338 WM. Problem with the 7 is that -- assumng only one slot left to fill -- the 7's not that much different than the .308 -- there's not much a 7mm Mag can do a .308 with right bullet choice and barrel length can't. "Deer and below" taken care of , the .300s + are much better "elk and above" specialists. Now, if you changed the rules and said a "one gun only battery," the 7mm Mag would be back in the game - along with the 30-06--both can be down and uploaded to be pretty versatile rounds.
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22-rimfire
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The 338 is a fine caliber if you want something with more punch than you already have. What ya gunna use it for?
Me, I would want something smaller like a .223 just for the fun of it. Sometimes I just think everyone is magnum crazy and they use them for deer sized game.... over powered. Why spend all this money for magnum ammunition when you can do the job just as well with normal calibers at 2/3 the price. I have to admit the .270 WSM is an interesting round though.
Me, I would want something smaller like a .223 just for the fun of it. Sometimes I just think everyone is magnum crazy and they use them for deer sized game.... over powered. Why spend all this money for magnum ammunition when you can do the job just as well with normal calibers at 2/3 the price. I have to admit the .270 WSM is an interesting round though.
MeekAndMild
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You can't go to magnums until you finish filling out this case size series. this means you need a 7mm-08 and a .358 Winchester. Trapp didn't tell you the .358 is a .308 necked up. 7mm-08 is a .308 necked down.
FirstFreedom
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.... still waiting to hear from the thread starter, "for what?"; then I'll vote.
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firstfreedom
TEXAS big game like hogs. so Im kinda looking at the 7mm the .300 is not what im looking for already got a .308. the 7mm is 3100 fps with 150 and the .338 is a little big for TEXAS. but Im asking yawl. dont see me leaving the state to go hunting any time soon so the 7mm will get used.
firstfreedom
TEXAS big game like hogs. so Im kinda looking at the 7mm the .300 is not what im looking for already got a .308. the 7mm is 3100 fps with 150 and the .338 is a little big for TEXAS. but Im asking yawl. dont see me leaving the state to go hunting any time soon so the 7mm will get used.