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Wyosmith said:
There is nothing wrong with your old .30-30, and there is nothing wrong with someone wanting to spend more money on a different rifle to get the same performance. It's like asking why would I have you build me a beautiful sidelock muzzle loader that you're so good at, when I can buy a synthetic Traditions Deerhunter that'll do the same thing in the end? I guess what I'm getting at is if we were all satisfied with what was available, what would your profession look like?
I'm not for or against the 8.6 Creedmoor cartridge, but I appreciate the innovation that comes with it. I know you're going to ask what innovation? Powder, bullet, rifle, and cartridge tech needs to advance to keep people interested in the industry or it'll die out. I'm really interested in the "Fix" rifle by Q, that this cartridge will be chambered in.
A sub 7 lbs 18" .308 chassis rifle is pretty cool IMO, couple that with AR style barrel interchangeability that makes it pretty awesome in my book. I've always liked the modular concept of a chassis rifle, but hated the weight that came with them. Am I going to run out and drop $3K on a chassis rifle to get my "Fix", probably not I really like being married to my wife.
Building a better mousetrap is one thing, building the same mousetrap so that it fits into a different shape box is another.
If you've got one of those strange shaped boxes, then by all means, put whatever you want (that fits) into it.
But since I don't, don't expect anything more than a yawn over the latest "new" mousetrap that fits in a box I don't own....
If you've got one of those strange shaped boxes, then by all means, put whatever you want (that fits) into it.
But since I don't, don't expect anything more than a yawn over the latest "new" mousetrap that fits in a box I don't own....
But that is where we are at.....all the boxes are defined pretty well.
All the cartridge performance nodes are defined.
Now, can you do something to get good performance into your box?
Add into that lighter bullets with good bc’s and Superformance/cfe type powders that hit blazing speeds and make the bed on the way out!
Now it’s time to reinvent! I like 300 blk in an AR pistol.
All the cartridge performance nodes are defined.
Now, can you do something to get good performance into your box?
Add into that lighter bullets with good bc’s and Superformance/cfe type powders that hit blazing speeds and make the bed on the way out!
Now it’s time to reinvent! I like 300 blk in an AR pistol.
stagpanther
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Having done quite a bit of work with creedmoor based cartridges--I have my doubts as to what a 338 in it can do in it that isn't covered better by the 308 on up case--I think it's one instance where the set-back shoulder would work against it rather than for it considering the design of 338 bullets. But that's just a wild guess--maybe it will end up as a "king-sized 300 BO."
stagpanther
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I bought a Wilson combat 338 fed barrel and built an AR with it--I still haven't found the "holy grail" load that shoots well. The only 308 based cartridge I've had that trouble with so far, even the 358win I built shoots much better--but what the hey.
Double Naught Spy
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Years ago, I bought quality, but very spendy handgun. It so impressed me, that I thought I would upgrade to the next higher model the following year...which was even more expensive.
A friend of mine asked me, "What problems is buying the more expensive version going to resolve for you? What is so lacking that it will be fixed by upgrading?"
I had to think about it for a bit. I realized that I was perfectly happy with what I had and that spending the extra money for an upgraded model was only going to change my financial position (more negatively) more significantly than anything else. I bought a second pistol, one exactly like the first that impressed me. Now I have a spare. I did not spend the extra $ for the upgraded version.
That little lesson has influenced a lot of my purchase decisions, be it in cars or guns or calibers.
A friend of mine asked me, "What problems is buying the more expensive version going to resolve for you? What is so lacking that it will be fixed by upgrading?"
I had to think about it for a bit. I realized that I was perfectly happy with what I had and that spending the extra money for an upgraded model was only going to change my financial position (more negatively) more significantly than anything else. I bought a second pistol, one exactly like the first that impressed me. Now I have a spare. I did not spend the extra $ for the upgraded version.
That little lesson has influenced a lot of my purchase decisions, be it in cars or guns or calibers.