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My new pistol, tampered with before received. Still a mystery.
- Thread starter FunGramps
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NoSecondBest
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A bit of history here. After the two original owners of this company (Dan & wife) split up she ended up running/owning the company. It went belly up and was bought out by a couple of other friends/partners who again started making the “same” guns. ANYTHING may have happened when the last few guns were assembled and shipped out of the original factory. Depending on the time frame here, the OP may have gotten a “leftover parts/last run” gun with some junk innards. I’d be more inclined to think this is what happened. FWIW, the new/next owners didn’t succeed in this business. I’m always amazed at company names being sold and everyone thinking they’re getting the same guns made by the same people with just the owners being the only change. Charles Daley, Dan Wesson, Charter Arms, etc, etc, etc....
buck460XVR
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My guess? Coonan screwed up and gave you a story to cover their ineptness. Unless the OP was there at the factory when the gun was tore down, he is at the mercy of the guy on the other end of the phone line.
dogtown tom
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I've never heard of cyclic rate so fast that you couldn't tell when more than one round fires.FunGramps
Turns out that Coonan was firing two rounds fully auto, and so fast that neither I or my friend could hear it.
I'll bet.It had crude grinding done, and the sear was ruined.
I'd be interested to know how such alterations to a semi auto pistol was done that allowed only two rounds at a time to fire. Usually when someone monkey with the sear the firearm empties the entire magazine.
I would put my money on it being Coonan. Dan Coonan was happily taking buyers $$$$ right up until they shut their doors. Those buyers never got their guns, never got a refund.Either someone at the factory or the FFL store tampered with the gun.
dogtown tom
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Dain Bramage
I called Charter. They claimed it could not have been damaged at the factory, but with their excellent customer service, they paid shipping both ways and did the repair for free. I doubt they believed I had nothing to do with it.
My opinion is that someone in the supply chain thought it was a cool little gun and did something stupid with it. Of course, I'll never know.
My favorite Charter return was the one where they had not completely bored each chamber in the cylinder all the way through. .38 Special rounds would not go all the way in. Yet it came with a fired case. Charter returned a completely new revolver.
Occam's Razor says it was the FFL. Can't imagine a factory saboteur...
Occam’s Razor would suggest a ham fisted employee at the factory. Why would the FFL be disassembling the gun and messing with parts?
Sorry to hear about your problem. Having worked in places on both ends of the situation, the "most likely probable" senario is that the pistol arrived at your dealer's place just fine. But then some jerk who works there, maybe even the manager of the department or store manager (it is unlikely anyone else could get the pistol out of the store without being noticed) decided to "try out" your new firearm. After all, he'll probably never have another chance to "try out" a Coonan. So he takes it out of the safe-room, or wherever they keep the firearms not on display, certainly without logging it out because he intends to bring it right back. So he gets to the place he is going to try it out and fires off a few rounds, but that's not good enough for him. He really wants to know how good these "things" are, so he tries a few +P rounds. That goes pretty good, so he decides he's really going to "test it," so he loads up some +P+ or hot handloads to really give it a work out! That's when things go bad. A couple of round might have worked fine, but after a couple of the hottest things he could get his hand on, the pistol begins to malfunction. He immediately stops and rushes home. He takes it apart, if he can get it apart, and discoveres the damage he has caused. More panic. He decides that he can fix it or knows someone, most likely one of the other "good" customers who can "fix it." So after some grinding and other fine craftsman-ship, this guy cleans it up as good as he can, puts it back in the box and then takes it back to the store where he slips it back on the shelf, confident in the knowledge that no one will ever detect the damage and if they do, well, he'll just blame the manufacturer. Why do I suspect this was the case? Had it happen at least three times at stores where I worked. Once again, sorry about your problem, but if there is a "moral" to the story it is -- Do not allow any firearm that you order to sit in a store for more than a few hours and, if possible" always insist that the outer box and/or wrapping not be opened until you arrive. Now, some ffl will not agree to receive an item if you insist on this last one, but if they refuse, just walk away and find another ffl who understands the issue.
All I know is that it cycled those two rounds so fast that I thought I'd only fired one into the ceiling. And the second shot felt the same...and into the ceiling.I've never heard of cyclic rate so fast that you couldn't tell when more than one round fires.
I'll bet.
I'd be interested to know how such alterations to a semi auto pistol was done that allowed only two rounds at a time to fire. Usually when someone monkey with the sear the firearm empties the entire magazine.
I would put my money on it being Coonan. Dan Coonan was happily taking buyers $$$$ right up until they shut their doors. Those buyers never got their guns, never got a refund.
If the entire magazine went full auto I would have soiled myself, and been kicked off the range. They wouldn't even allow what they considered rapid fire with any gun.
Carl the Floor Walker
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I believe that was right after his wife took over the company. (through divorce or death I cannot remember)I've never heard of cyclic rate so fast that you couldn't tell when more than one round fires.
I'll bet.
I'd be interested to know how such alterations to a semi auto pistol was done that allowed only two rounds at a time to fire. Usually when someone monkey with the sear the firearm empties the entire magazine.
I would put my money on it being Coonan. Dan Coonan was happily taking buyers $$$$ right up until they shut their doors. Those buyers never got their guns, never got a refund.