Movie Break!

[Rob Pincus]

Okay, things have been getting pretty serious around here lately.. which is fine. But I want to have a social relationship with everyone here too, not just exchange knowledge and reaffirm beliefs.

Inspired by a thread over at GT, I am reposting my contribution of "good movies" here, for your consideration, critique and (hopefully) additions.

Most of you know I consider myself somewhat of a movie buff, so here is my list, compiled with about 20 minutes to think about it, so forgive my missing great movies as I am sure I have missed some classics:

(I frequently reference posts from the original thread at GT, but you can get the point without being familar with them, if you want to check them out, they are <A HREF="http://ericcom.com/glocktalk//Forum3/HTML/001072.html">HERE.</a>

Just in case some of the referrences are confusing:
If I MENTION it, I am recommending it, yes, that includes Face/Off... While the premise may have been lame, it was a good "movie".
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Suicide Kings is a must see.

Who forgot Face/Off.. oh, all of you...

Replacement Killers is okay, but you are MUCH better off finding a copy of the Original Woo/Fat team ups, such as: Killers, A Better Tommorow or Hard Boiled
(if you like Woo's Original Stuff, also find A Bullet in The Head

The Negotiator was good.

Grosse Point Blank is a must see, but it is much more of a comedy than an action flick.

As for older movies:

Shame on all of you for not mentioning Red Dawn.. go rent it..NOW!

Kudos to DavidZ for mentioning Resevoir Dogs and others (including MAd MAx, Monty Python and Heat).

Somehow Apocolypse Now seems to have been missed.

Eric must have edited out First Blood recomendations, surely it was mentioned.

I know that socialist spies must have deleted all referrences to The Green Berets.

Who knows why you've all neglected Steve McQeen (The Getaway, Bullitt, Grand Prix)??!

Red had the insight to include The Godfather Movies and The Usual Suspects, (and Bladerunner, Braveheart and Highlander) but he forgot all about Donnie Brasco, The Sting, Copland, Scarface and the HBO production Gotti

On the humorous side Austin Powers, Happy Gilmore, The original Blues Brothers and The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy deserve consideration.

As a military school graduate I must give a vote each for Taps and The Lords of Discipline.

Patton.


The Chairman of the Board demands that you (at least) see The Manchurian Candidate, Come Blow your Horn, Ocean's 11, High Society and From here to Eternity

Casablanca, The Black Legion, The Big Sleep (both versions) and The Maltese Falcon will undoubtedly be seen by all true Americans.

"Sci-Fi?", you ask... the aforementioned Bladerunner is near the top of the list as are The Andromeda Strain, American Werewofl in London, a couple of the Star Trek Movies, Altered States, that movie with the teleporting ring and Egyptian themes, you know what I mean! The Lord of Illusions, Hellraiser, Total Recall, and a relative newcomer, Event Horizon (one of the creepiest movies ever). Yes, you all have some explaining to do for not including The Star Wars Trilogy

Speaking of which, where is Mr. Ford? You can remind yourselves with Patriot Games, Air Force One and all of the Indiana Jones movies.

Alec Guiness can be seen in one of his greatest roles in Bridge over the River Kwai.

Bond... James Bond.

Closet Tom Cruise fan? okay, how about Top Gun, The Color of Money, Risky Business, and Days of Thunder.

Regardless of his anti-gun stance, you should have included Dirty Harry (and The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly, Pale Rider, and Magnum Force)

Chuck? yep... I'll give the nod to Code of Silence and Lone Wolf McQuade.

The Deer Hunter & Easy Rider.

Okay, okay.. that's plenty of movies we expect you to mention.. what about the side of Rob that we don't see??
Well, in your more mellow moments, you might find entertainment in: Scent of a Woman, Grease, Tron, The Breakfast Club, Purple Rain, 2001/2010, Smokey & The Bandit, Sixteen Candles, 1969, Dead Poets Society, Born on the 4th of July, and some Not-Really-a-"Movie" essentials:
Eddie Murhpy Raw
All of Dennis Miller's performances
Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time"
Car & Driver's "Ten Top Exotic Cars"
Henry Rollins' "Talking from the Box"

A last minute glance at the Laserdisc library reminds me to include Desperado, Asassins, Platoon, The Young Americans, The Warlord, Pulp Fiction, True Romance, Roadhouse, Jaws and Above The Law.

I'm sure I've missed plenty, but those should keep you all busy for awhile.


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[Jeff Thomas]

If I received you right, yes, I'll agree Face / Off was lame.

However, I would include Memphis Belle, Full Metal Jacket and Red October (although I have sworn off simpleton Alec Baldwin).

Am I the only human who thought that 2001 was pretty sleepy in parts? My son had the greatest line for one of the slower parts - 'almost makes you wish we were still watching apes throwing bones at each other' or such ...

Oh yes - and, Silence of the Lambs was quite the flick.


How about the worst movies of all time? I'll vote for Nightfall as tops in that category (billed as Isaac Asimov's 'greatest science fiction story ever told', but I believe he mercifully died before this monstrosity hit the screen - if not, it may have hastened his demise), Thousand Acres (with Michelle Pfeiffer; and, this was a movie my wife and I began to call 'Thousand Minutes' before it was done), and finally What Dreams May Come (with Robin Williams; which certainly won the 'Originality' and 'Colorful' awards, but was a rather bizarre tale; the heads in Hell scene had its humorous moments). Anyone else think Rushmore was inane?

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[buzz riley]

OK Rob,
I've read your manuscript top to bottom... three times. I'd send it off to Readers Digest for you, but my UPS man seems to have mis-placed his lifting belt(I'd place a winking smiley face here if I knew how).
It's late, and my eyes are tired...but I seemed to have overlooked the greatest western classic of all time(excluding those with The Duke-of course).
DRUM ROLL............."LONESOME DOVE"
Was it an oversight on my part?


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[Mort]

The Cardinal.
I'm not sure why this movie knocked me over. I saw it on PBS and was mesmerized for the whole--jeez, must have been 3 1/2 hours.

Suicide Kings? I was wondering... I trust you, Rob, I'll rent it.

Malcolm X. It's just good.

Army of Darkness. It has this whole vibe...it's so BAD...it's great.

Jeff...I concur on 2001. Often I wonder what everyone was thinking during those years of moviemaking. The last 20 minutes was fast-forward worthy.

Planet of the Apes! Is all I have to say.

The Pink Panther. Did anyone else wonder why Inspector Clousseau had a gold-plated pistol? It's one of those great mysteries of film. It doesn't fit him, yet there it is.

The Big Lebowski was worth it for the bowling alley scene alone.

I sense that this topic will be around for a while.

 

[Gunslinger]

How do you insert those smiley faces any way? Are Buzz and I the only two left that don't know how? (If I knew as little about guns as I do about computers I'd have shot myself yearts ago trying to figure out which end the bullet comes out of!)
Gunslinger

 

[Mikey]

For those of us that grew up watching the Three Stooges...

Caddyshack - Bill Murray deserved and Oscar

Blazing Saddles - or anything else Mel Brooks touched (Spaceballs, History of the World - Part One

Speaking of Part One - Why was no Oscar ever awarded for Remo Williams

I'm late for work - more to come - How about Men at Work

 

[cornered rat]

I'd suggest getting "first blood" the book, instead of the film. I'd also suggest getting "godfather" the book, to compliment the film.
For long-range rifle buffs, "The Light Horsemen" is *the* flick to get...that was about the days when Aussies had guts and luck, if not brains These days, I just wish them luck.


See http://ddb.com/olegv/hobbies.shtml for other recommendations. For those who live in cities with sizable Russian population, Proverka na dorogah(Testing on the roads) would be worth renting. That movie would give Saving private Ryan a run for its money, with less pathos. The story is about a guy who joined the German police unit after being captured, then went to the partisans...and no one trusted him. They basically made him go to all the suicide missions as long as his luck held. Some nasty footage of MG42 at work.

 

[Bruce from West Oz]

OK, I'll bite!! Here's my additions:

Movies for curling your toes:

Terminator II (not I)

Predator (I)

Heartbreak Ridge

Is it "Navy Seals"? (Just for "God" and that awesome .50 cal)

Wild Bunch (a favourite cowboy movie)

Botch Casually and the Somedunce Kid

The Big Red 1

The Longest Day

The Sand Pebbles

The African Queen

The Getaway (original and, for the guns, the remake)

On Any Sunday (anyone remember this?? God I'm getting old!!)

Starman

Cocoon I

"Number 5 is a-l-i-v-e" (Forget the movie name)

Camelot (Richard Harris and Vanessa Redgrave)

From Russia with Love

Ghost

Goodbye Mr Chips

"Bored me sh**less" awards:

The Way We Were

The Sound of Music

Pretty Woman

The Pelican Brief

Dr Zhivago

Fried Green Tomatoes at the etc. etc. etc.

Heaps more -- but that'll do for now

Bruce

 

[Alba]

Gentlemen, less we forget Halloween-the orig.

Fri. XII-orig.ya know they both scared ya
The rest of John Wayne's movies not mentioned, especially "The Alamo"
Die Hard Tril.-yeah same story, but we watched them.
Young Guns I & II

China Moon w/Ed Harris

Alien-I

 

[Byron Quick]

The Dogs of War with Christopher Walken.

A Clockwork Orange...(I want to do a remake where when Alex and his 'droogs' come out into the alley after leaving the milk bar...and attack the old wino...he calmly pulls a Model 29 S&W, double taps each of them in the center of mass...lies back happily sipping wine as the credits roll

 

[Rob Pincus]

You guys have done a good job of adding.. I must have been brain dead to forget Silence, FMJ, and Caddyshack.

May God forgive us all for not including Excalibur!

I'll roll with you on Malcom X, but then we have to agree that there was one Spike Lee movie about the kids.. you'know the one I mean.. it was okay...okay, well it was good. Which one was it? Clockers? Boyz in the Hood?

There was a ghetto movie with Harvey Keitel as a homocide detective and a "hero" kid who couldn't do anything right.. he drink a lot of chocolate milk... That was a good one...

New Jack City was good and The King of New York is watchable.

If we throw in Clockwork then we must include THX, the original 15 minute thing and the Robert Duvall full length.

Cornered Rat: David Morrell is one of my favorite authors of all time.. Do I smell another thread starting?

 

[Mike Spight]

Cannot believe that no one has mentioned two of the greatest action movies of all time IMHO: The Wild Bunch and Quigley Down Under. Admittedly, Quigley is a little cutsey at times, but the long range shooting sequences were still great. The Wild Bunch provides and object lesson in men who are "tougher than woodpecker lips". Borgnine, Holden and their compadres did the right thing...they went back for their bud and didn't look back. Two others for consideration: The Seven Samurai and (our westernized version) The Magnificent Seven. Saw a lot of my favorites already mentioned by other posters...great minds do think alike.

 

[fal308]

Some others not yet mentioned;
The Professionals
Big Jake
The Shootist
Tom Horn
Bite the Bullet
Broken Arrow
Heavy Metal
Vanishing Point
American Graffiti
Heat
Ghost & the Darkness
Dune
The Boys In Company C
Tombstone
The Day of the Jackal
and the one Rob couldn't remember the name of.. Stargate.

 

[spark@onestopknifeshop.com]

The Long Kiss Goodnight
The Crow (I, avoid City of Angels at all costs)
Aliens
The Abyss
The Perfect Weapon (Jeff Speakman before he got hugely fat)
The Final Option
Armageddon, Saving Private Ryan, etc.
Mimic


I second Rob's Suicide Kings, get the directors cut if you can. Also I agree with anything John Woo, especially Hard Boiled, The Killer, A Better Tomorrow.

Jackie Chan is hard to beat, especially the Drunken Master series.

For whoever mentioned it above, "Number 5 is alive" is from the movie "Short Circuit, starring Alley Sheedy(sp?)

That's it for now, more as I think of them

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[Morgan]

Hardly much to add, but...

The Crays
Shallow Grave

Both dark and fun, especially the latter.

 

[Jim V]

Here are my movie picks that should be watched often.

THE WILD BUNCH (mentioned)*
THE SHOOTIST **
EXTREME PREJUDICE (w/Nick Nolte)*
THE WIND AND THE LION *
ROUGH RIDERS *
THE PROFESSIONALS (the western)**
BULLETT
THE LIGHTHORSEMEN **
A GATHERING OF VULTURES (made in Rhodesia before the fall)**
RED DAWN *
STAR WARS I, II, III
ZULU *
THE GETAWAY (either version)
COWBOYS (not the John Wayne film but the one with Glen Ford)
STAGECOACH (original)
JAWS

* movies I watch at least 3X a year, some times more.
** movies I watch at least 1X a year.



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[Alba]

Heres a few I forgot
Tough Guys (w/ K. Douglas)
Event Horizon (if u like scarry sci-fi)
Dirty Harry saga(at least all bad guys die)

 

[boing]

"The Full Monty", about a Brit who recruits some other guys to be amateur strippers, so he can pay his child support. A film that never would have been made in this country.

"Flirting With Disaster" I run screaming from 'romantic comedies of errors', but my wife and I watched this one about 20 times.

"Jaws" The only movie I own (letterbox). I just do't go into natural bodies of water anymore.

"MASH"

I saw "Two Thumbs Up" on "Mimic". Well, the boredom was pretty horrifying...

Then again, I saw "Two Thumbs Up" on "Beavis and Butthead Do America". Maybe Gene Siskel died of embarrassment.

Oh, yeah: "The Road Warrior"

-boing

 

[hksigwalther]

ALIENS was mentioned but it should be the uncut version with additional footage showing the sentry guns at work after they left the APC with the broken transaxel. If you like to see bugs get greased, this scene is a must-see.

Akira Kurasawa rules. (And the derivatives, Star Wars (man I can't wait for Phantom Menace), Mag Seven)

Kelley's Heroes
Breaker Morant (sic) - I think
Killing Fields
Ben Hur
Spartacus (all of Kirk D's cowboy movies too)
If they would have called Starship Troopers something else it was an OK sci-fi movie. Otherwise it sucked compared to the book.
To Hell and Back
Combat (the series)
Indy Jones I, II
Breaking Away (for some reason I never get tired of this movie)
The only bad thing about Killers, A Better..., etc. is a total disregard for reloading. Otherwise, Press-Here-Until-Empty.

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[Kodiac]

Oh man, this is one of my favorite topics...
Stand Back - I'll only mention the top 5, but
I need some room here. Lets go in order...

#1 STAR WARS (the whole saga here). I say STAR WARS is of paramount importance to film making and to the shooting community in general. Not only is it an escape from the hum drum of life taking us to other worlds we would love to goto... it proves the premis that Germany has the best gun makers in the world and in galaxies far far away... The movie just wouldnt be the same without the German guns... What would HAN SOLO do with Greedo if Han wasnt armed with his Mouser-Blaster? Luke too... And quite often you observed Stormies packing MG-42s all over the place - Never mind the dressing up on the MG... STOCK works just fine even in a galaxie far far away... I am not sure - But I think Lehia took out a couple Stormies with her modified Luger... one in the beginning of Episode 4, and 2 in episode 6 - while on the forest moon of Endor. Go Girl! There are lots of other noteworthy items to talk about.
But let me move on...

#2 ALIENS... Man, can you get a lot of work done with the old reliable Tommy Gun! In the movie they called it the M-41A... which was a redressed M-21A of the WWII variety. Under the barrel they had a 12 gauge pump action with parts taken off the SPAS12... As the movie shows - quite the combo. I dont think the military even has 12 guage grenades... 30mm as it is said in the film. There are a couple versions of the film out now - and only one shows the suit case packet smart sentry guns working over a horde of xenomorphs coming down an access breezway. VERY COOL SEEN... if you can see it. Other guns shown are a nifty flamer unit, made with a M-16 upper receiver, an old 12 gauge pump( hicks uses for close encounters). And Oh, whats this? Another apearance of an MG-42? Yes it is... even with the standard issue drum magazine on the side. The MG is mounted on a carry frame, attached to a cinimatic STILL CAM unit. The so called SMART GUN is just that. A very clever way of packing a HOG. The US ARMY should have taken note. It would work. Check out the Aliens Tech Manual at Barnes and Nobel... the makers put a lot of thought into its creation. A couple VP-70s are in there too. (HK FOREVER) The other weapons didnt get screen time... the APCs weapons and the Drop Ship's weapons... gats and missiles. Too bad. Movies 3 and 4 should have gone on with a good thing...

#3 BLADE RUNNER. Yeah, its a great gun movie. In the beginng when a replicant is getting interviewed by Deckard's co-worker... and gets blasted... I think that would be a great gun for hunting Javalinas or brown bear. Makes even the mighty 10MM look scrawny. Deckard's gun - (in the book written by Philip K Dick called "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" it is called a lazer tube...) looks like a revolvers frame and grip on an automatics slide. I have tried to put that together in my head and it dont work... but in the movie it sure does a number on one replicant - Leon, with a head shot from behind fired by Rachel... but not exactly the one shot stopper when fired at Priss who went insane and was still very dangerous if you got close... in the following book we find out she lived. Not very well, but she did live. I think this is due to the fact Harrison Ford's guy should have gone to thinder ranch... He misses Roy - What? Twice? Yeah, he had two broken fingre in the second shot it think it was - but still... Rutger is a sasquatch sized fellow... Then Decard goes and drops his gun altogether... Which is a good lesson to us all. Maybe the lanyard isnt such a bad idea? Or climbing is the bad idea? Never the less - a good holster is in order.

#4 Tombstone. Dang. What can we say about Tombstone? It's a Daisy as Doc would say... For SASS guys - I couldnt think of a better film... even a lot of the shooting styles were filmed right. Very good gun movie. Young Guns was good - but this was better.One of the best depictions of the OK Corral shooting... not exactly historicly accurate, but if it was, the event would have been rather anti-climatic.

#5 HARD BOILED John Woo directing Chow Fat in the BEST ACTION MOVIE EVER. They dont make films like this anymore... One scene - all shot in one take spaning several floors of a hospital, lasting over 5 minutes... It made me tired just watching! I have yet to see Bullet in the head - maybe it is better... I dont know... but this movie is the tops. Lots of different guns in this one. And from here - you see moves used in most action movies since. a MUST SEE. Period. Rent it TONIGHT. Another Woo-FAT I prefer is simply called "The Killer" and it is. But Hard Boiled is a bigger film - more in the Leathal Weapon range of Big Action movies...

I could go on... I havnt even started yet... But I suddenly have the urge to go to the movies... See Ya!

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