Miracle Occurs! Glock Fails! Deputy Lives!

KyJim

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This deputy must be living right. He's maybe alive because a Glock malfunctioned. Relevant portion of story from http://www.kentucky.com/211/story/715545.html

Police say a jail inmate plotted to kill the Madison County bailiff who escorted him to court Wednesday, but his plan was thwarted by a gun malfunction.

Sgt. Scotty Anderson of the Madison County Sheriff's Department said Steven Chaney took Bailiff Daniel Futia's gun about noon while the deputy unlocked the van to escort Chaney and three other inmates back to the Madison County jail after their hearings in district court. Chaney tried to shoot Futia twice, but the Glock didn't fire, Anderson said.

Officers who heard a commotion from inside the courthouse on Main Street apprehended the green-jumpsuit-clad Chaney as he tried to run off, Anderson said.

Chaney, 20, has been charged with disarming a police officer, second-degree escape and first-degree wanton endangerment.

Everything played out in our favor yesterday," Anderson said.

Chaney was in district court Wednesday to address charges that he robbed a Shell gas station in Waco. During court proceedings, Chaney told Futia that he had diarrhea and needed to be taken to the bathroom twice. Anderson said Chaney used his two bathroom breaks to evaluate where Futia kept his gun on his holster.

When Futia took the inmates outside, Chaney "saw an opportunity and took advantage of that bailiff," Anderson said.

Futia took the three other inmates to the other side of the van when he realized that Chaney had his gun. The deputy also drew his Taser before Chaney ran off. . . .

Richmond Police are handling the investigation. Chief Larry Brock said he wasn't sure whether the inmates were handcuffed, but Chaney did have on leg irons. Madison County jail inmates who appeared Thursday in circuit court wore handcuffs.
 

Brian Pfleuger

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Hm, would be interesting to know the cause....

but it's safe to say I'm glad a Glock can fail when it needs to;):D, very chivalrous of it.
 

azredhawk44

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Chaney tried to shoot Futia twice, but the Glock didn't fire, Anderson said.

I don't drink the GlocKool-aid, but it sounds like the deputy didn't load the chamber.

I'd love to hear a detailed failure report. Failure to chamber a round? Inappropriate assembly after cleaning? WECSOG trigger job gone wrong?

That same failure that saved the deputy's life might have ended in a different way, costing the life of the deputy or some innocent victim of another violent criminal.
 

Warchild

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Probably didn't have a round chambered. Thank god the deputy is alright. You have got to practice weapon retention, and positioning the inmates where they are not strong side if you can help it.
 

dadams868

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Yeah, I really doubt there was a round chambered. If there was actually a misfire or a dud round... wow. One lucky bailiff.
 

shortwave

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Someone upstairs was looking out. Whatever reason was. Would like to know more details also. Glock FTF almost cost another LEO his life in Lee Co. Fla. some time back. Drug bust went bad and closerange shootout insued between perp and LEO. After 4th shot LEO`s Glock jammed:eek:. Lucky for that cop one of the previous 4 shots hit its mark. It happens even with Glocks.
 

Warchild

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You'd be surprised how many LEO only fire their gun when it's time to qualify and only clean after they qualify.
 

Sturmgewehre

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Unless the striker broke, which is highly unlikely, the pistol wasn't loaded and the inmate didn't know how to load it - or didn't know why it wasn't firing.

I would be willing to bet the Glock didn't fail in this situation. An unloaded firing not firing isn't a failure.
 
Since there isn't any specific details on this story...what else is new? My thoughts:

Inmate forgot to use the Ireali Glock tactic or tap/rack/bang drill; and smart for the bailiff to leave the chamber empty.
 

Warchild

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It was luck if the chamber was empty, not smart. What would be ideal would be to have a minimum lvl 3 retention holster like the safariland 070 and to not allow the inmate to be close enough, especially on strong side, to retrieve your weapon. Never transporting inmates to court without leg restraints is also important as well as never allowing them to walk behind you, point where you want them to go and correct them when needed. Regardless of any of the above we don't know what happened and it's pure speculation, I'm just thankful to hear the deputy is okay.
 

KyJim

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The thought occurred to me that a round wasn't chambered. But, it was just too big a target to go by without a mention. And, no, I'm not a Glock basher.
 

Warchild

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Not at all Jim, it's a good story to share and I appreciate you sharing, deputy lived and the bad guy is still a bad guy. Just goes to show ALL makes are capable of failures, even a Glock. It also serves as a wake up to all LEO to not become complacent and to maintain constant awareness and focus on the training learned.
 

jdrush369

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I 100% agree that glocks are as reliable as you get but gun failures happen, glock or not. It could have been either a ftf or not one in the chamber. All you kool-aiders have to admit that. :)
 

Ginger

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" Futia took the three other inmates to the other side of the van when he realized that Chaney had his gun. " :confused:

Is Futia's first name Glock? Seems like he was the malfunction....
 
I visited a buddy who works at the local police range. The sign on the inside of the gate that you see as you are leaving says something to the effect of...

STOP! Check and Load Your Weapons Now

Apparently, it was put up as a reminder to all those officers who didn't bother reloading after qualifying and who had gone out on the street with empty guns or loaded guns with unchambered rounds.

Of course, Glocks can malfunction. Ammo can malfunction. Deputies can malfunction.
 
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