I recently acquired a brand spank'n new Marlin 336... it is definitely a "remlin". I have to say that the build quality seems pretty good to me. Accuracy seems good. I have not shot it from a bench at 100 yards yet, but just plinking it seems fine. no feeding or extraction issues. Trigger is decent. The wood stock is attractive and nicely finished... it's not a Browning or a Sako, but hey...
Marlin what is going on with them?
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The company has invested large money in CNC & more updated machinery in general for the Marlins & retrained employees while several models were temporarily suspended.
The 3-phase factory upgrade is supposed to be done by now, so if they did what they said they were going to do, the current Marlins should be OK.
Just inspect carefully before you buy.
Denis
The 3-phase factory upgrade is supposed to be done by now, so if they did what they said they were going to do, the current Marlins should be OK.
Just inspect carefully before you buy.
Denis
I stand corrected...I was suffering under the delusion that it was just the 1894's, but here is the full list of models/SKUs that they have not shipped since August of last year:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/08/robert-farago/marlin-stops-shipping-lever-rifles/
As for "temporarily suspended", it is pushing a year now...
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/08/robert-farago/marlin-stops-shipping-lever-rifles/
As for "temporarily suspended", it is pushing a year now...
Late last year when I discussed it with one of the production people at Remington I was told they had realized they'd underestimated the complexity of the transition from old Marlin to new Marlin, had finally realized it was essentially out of control, and they were temporarily suspending several models while pursuing a 3-phase analysis, plant & equipment re-organizing & plant worker training.
As the phases were completed, which should be finished, the models would be re-introduced, but not necessarily all at once.
Give it some more time.
The last new .357 I had here a couple years back was so bad it was returned unfired.
Hopefully they're getting a better handle on the processes.
Denis
As the phases were completed, which should be finished, the models would be re-introduced, but not necessarily all at once.
Give it some more time.
The last new .357 I had here a couple years back was so bad it was returned unfired.
Hopefully they're getting a better handle on the processes.
Denis
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"Underestimated" was the word used, but I think they HAVE learned something from the process. 
Moving the operation to a new location with people who had never built Marlins before, transition glitches were inevitable.
On the positive side, they were taking substantial measures to correct the situation.
On the negative side, far too many defective Marlins got out before they realized the severity of the situation.
I haven't ruled out a new Marlin, but if & when it'll be hands-on inspected before money trades hands.
Denis
Moving the operation to a new location with people who had never built Marlins before, transition glitches were inevitable.
On the positive side, they were taking substantial measures to correct the situation.
On the negative side, far too many defective Marlins got out before they realized the severity of the situation.
I haven't ruled out a new Marlin, but if & when it'll be hands-on inspected before money trades hands.
Denis
I have one of the last true Marlin 1894css guns in 357 magnum. When I bought mine it was sitting in my gun dealer's shop for a while and in terrific condition. Build quality, reliability and accuracy have been superb. Personally, it is a very enjoyable rifle to own and use in the field or at the range.
When I bought this rifle there was another, new in box, that I also looked at. The minute I opened the action, it locked up and wouldn't close or budge at all. It had to be disassembled to close and make it's way back to Remington.
So, note to self... inspect thoroughly any firearm you intend to buy.
Remington makes a lot of great reliable guns and has for years. I hate the fact that they didn't get the Marlin acquisition right, but very hopeful that now after realizing they have a problem, they will get it right again.
Time will tell.
When I bought this rifle there was another, new in box, that I also looked at. The minute I opened the action, it locked up and wouldn't close or budge at all. It had to be disassembled to close and make it's way back to Remington.
So, note to self... inspect thoroughly any firearm you intend to buy.
Remington makes a lot of great reliable guns and has for years. I hate the fact that they didn't get the Marlin acquisition right, but very hopeful that now after realizing they have a problem, they will get it right again.
Time will tell.
Cold,
If that was directed at me, you're off base.
Nowhere have I said, as "some guy on the Internet" that they have their **** together.
I deal with the gun industry as part of my job.
I've discussed this issue with a Remington rep in a position to know at the factory.
I passed on what I was told.
If you have more or better info, run with it.
I said "should" be through with their re-vamp program, since we're past the period of time they were projecting for it.
I said "if they did what they said they were going to do".
I said LOOK IT OVER CAREFULLY IF YOU GO FOR A NEW ONE.
Otherwise, I don't know what you'd be waiting for. You want a new Marlin, whether you check one out tomorrow or six months down the road, you're still going to be well advised to LOOK it over carefully.
In the meantime, go buy your pool.
Denis
If that was directed at me, you're off base.
Nowhere have I said, as "some guy on the Internet" that they have their **** together.
I deal with the gun industry as part of my job.
I've discussed this issue with a Remington rep in a position to know at the factory.
I passed on what I was told.
If you have more or better info, run with it.
I said "should" be through with their re-vamp program, since we're past the period of time they were projecting for it.
I said "if they did what they said they were going to do".
I said LOOK IT OVER CAREFULLY IF YOU GO FOR A NEW ONE.
Otherwise, I don't know what you'd be waiting for. You want a new Marlin, whether you check one out tomorrow or six months down the road, you're still going to be well advised to LOOK it over carefully.
In the meantime, go buy your pool.
Denis
It was a major undertaking, I wouldn't expect it to be done quickly.
I saw some new Marlins at SHOT in Vegas in January that were Ilion production, some better than others. Some had the JM barrels, some had the Ilion barrels.
Have not looked at anything current, I have enough Marlins from past years to meet my own needs.
Denis
I saw some new Marlins at SHOT in Vegas in January that were Ilion production, some better than others. Some had the JM barrels, some had the Ilion barrels.
Have not looked at anything current, I have enough Marlins from past years to meet my own needs.
Denis
Rifle Magazine (Jan 2012, No. 260) by Brian Pierce regarding Marlin (page 4)
http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/PDF/ri260partial1.pdf
Here is a Marlin employee's take on the article...
http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/PDF/ri260partial1.pdf
Here is a Marlin employee's take on the article...
Just curious what makes you say QC was declining before the take over? The only thing I can think of was a small number of the New MX (2008-2009) rifles had a barrel droop issue. But I credit that to it being a new product. The only rifle I have owned from that time period was a 308mx which had the droop. I sold it for more than I paid, so it was a non issue when it was all said and done with. But I have not heard complaints of any of the other pieces from that time period.