Took on board all of ya'lls advise, along with tales of knocking off marbles at 100 yds and am now a believer in it all. Just brought home a Marlin 917VS, mounting a Redfield Illuminator 6x20 that I had laying around, and shot some unbelievable fun groups......... and blew up a couple of cans to boot! Smilie Totally impressed with quality of rifle all together. Taking it down tonight to see how it works and lube what need lubing. Thanks for the input and knowledge put forth in helping me make up my mind. May just turn into my favorite gun to shoot! Was only able to find CCI and Remington (V-MAX) ammo. Will try and find some Hornady. Was too busy having fun to do any serious target shooting with the high winds we are having right now in the TX Hill Country, but will compare ammo when they go away and set up the Chrono to see all. Again, thanks all for the input and taking on board another convert.