So the mayor says they'll start implementing a system for gun owners to keep handguns in the home ... he says EVERY handgun will have to be registered with the police, he also said something about semi-automatic firearms still being banned, tho he might have been refering to long guns ... I think the ruling, while a landmark for sure, is still going to be fought tooth and nail by every anti out there, including the slugs who run DC ...
Heller Decision AFFIRMED, INDIVIDUAL right (Scalia)
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UniversalFrost
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Thank God!
I was almost jumping for joy when I saw the news this morning!
This will hopefully help pave the way for repealing the similiar gun bans in the various states and cities.
JOE
I was almost jumping for joy when I saw the news this morning!
This will hopefully help pave the way for repealing the similiar gun bans in the various states and cities.
JOE
This decision actually went a little further than I thought hey would but left some troubling points. They said you can have a handgun in your home and keep it loaded and ready. However they left the door open for registration and licensing. At least they struck down arbritrary licensing so unless you are a felon you should be able to get a license. Look for the cost of a license to go to $1,000 in DC and other places.
They left intact the bans on felons and others such as drug addicts or metally deranged. Personally I am pleased with this.
They did not really decide the AWB, 10 round capacity or similar so I expect more to follow. Better hurry up before Obama get to make his picks. You really need to think about your protesting the Republicans right now.
They limited their discussion to inside the home but it can probably be expanded. For one thing the may issue states should look at their CCW permit policies. It could also lead to universal reciprocity. I know this may be a stretch but someone will make that stretch shortly.
All together there is going to be a lot opf discussion and rulings on what this means. It will also probably lead to some more lawsuits, already the NRA is filing on behalf of San Fran and Chi town. I doubt that those two will make it to the SCOTUS but some will.
They left intact the bans on felons and others such as drug addicts or metally deranged. Personally I am pleased with this.
They did not really decide the AWB, 10 round capacity or similar so I expect more to follow. Better hurry up before Obama get to make his picks. You really need to think about your protesting the Republicans right now.
They limited their discussion to inside the home but it can probably be expanded. For one thing the may issue states should look at their CCW permit policies. It could also lead to universal reciprocity. I know this may be a stretch but someone will make that stretch shortly.
All together there is going to be a lot opf discussion and rulings on what this means. It will also probably lead to some more lawsuits, already the NRA is filing on behalf of San Fran and Chi town. I doubt that those two will make it to the SCOTUS but some will.
On the NFA thing, It would be nice if BATFE had to open up the registry again
So new ones could be made, and classified as transferable. Which would make them kinda affordable again, instead of having to buy something that was made in 1986 or before with skyrocketing prices to go with them( $18,000.00 for an M16, $5,000.00 for a STEN) I remember when you could get a STEN for $450.00 + $200.00 for the tax stamp in 1984
So new ones could be made, and classified as transferable. Which would make them kinda affordable again, instead of having to buy something that was made in 1986 or before with skyrocketing prices to go with them( $18,000.00 for an M16, $5,000.00 for a STEN
) I remember when you could get a STEN for $450.00 + $200.00 for the tax stamp in 1984Running Gunfight
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Just saw DC Mayor speech on TV...
I anticipate this from what I heard:
1. DC will harshly legislate types of handguns allowed. No semi-autos, caliber restrictions. "Oh yes, you may own a handgun as long as it is on this list of .22 caliber revolvers."
2. It is still illegal to have a handgun outside of the home. How do you get it home from the store? Can you ever take it to practice with?
3. Restrictions and the process for getting a license will be so complex and harsh as to continue the ban de facto.
So, good for the nation as it is affirmed as an individual right and a legitimate purpose is for SD, but not so good for the citizens of DC and other cities like it.
I anticipate this from what I heard:
1. DC will harshly legislate types of handguns allowed. No semi-autos, caliber restrictions. "Oh yes, you may own a handgun as long as it is on this list of .22 caliber revolvers."
2. It is still illegal to have a handgun outside of the home. How do you get it home from the store? Can you ever take it to practice with?
3. Restrictions and the process for getting a license will be so complex and harsh as to continue the ban de facto.
So, good for the nation as it is affirmed as an individual right and a legitimate purpose is for SD, but not so good for the citizens of DC and other cities like it.
BHO has just released his statement, it reads pretty much along the Brady Center's line where restricting is proper, but he'll uphold the law if elected "to allow sportsmen and hunters to posess guns".
I didn't notice where the decision mentioned only sportsmen and hunters.....
I didn't notice where the decision mentioned only sportsmen and hunters.....
FrontSight
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That's the problem with these morons, they simply can't understand, even when the Supreme Court explains it to them, that the 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting or being a sportsman!
Glad to see the ruling, but there is a long way to go for gun rights. D.C. can still find ways to keep people from getting handguns as mentioned above. I am fortunate enough to be able to carry my weapon anywhere I want, including D.C. but many are not and many people fall victim to violent crime in cities like D.C. because they cannot defend themselves. We need to keep fighting as this does nothing to help people attacked outside of their homes which is just as important.
jakeswensonmt
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Just saw Obama on MSNBC blathering about the Heller decision. He looked (dare I say it?) pale, confused, a little stunned. He attempted a little weaselly flip-floppy damage-control, prattled a little about his support for "hunters and sportsmen" to bear arms, while he cast about the far reaches of the stage with a bewildered look in his eyes.
Running Gunfight: While I haven't had time to digest all the implications of the decision, I would say that licensing requirements that are arbitrary and/or capricious will not survive.
Nor will requirements that amount to a de facto ban (high pricing/too restrictive) survive.
Given the many makes, models and caliber of self-defense firearms, restricting them to a small segment (arbitrary selection) will not survive.
Nor will requirements that amount to a de facto ban (high pricing/too restrictive) survive.
Given the many makes, models and caliber of self-defense firearms, restricting them to a small segment (arbitrary selection) will not survive.
Running Gunfight
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My gut tells me that DC will pass the laws. Then, it will be up to brave souls in DC to (possibly) be arrested and fight it out in court. I might just be upping my NRA contribution this year.
applesanity
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Manipulate the polls!
Washington post put out a poll on the ruling. It's our obligation as gun owners to skew those results so bad (so good?) that Mayor Adrian Fenty will blush.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dc/2008/06/dc_gun_ban_decision_poll_and_c.html?hpid=topnews
Also, I checked the DailyKos to see how they'd react. I was slightly surprised:
Washington post put out a poll on the ruling. It's our obligation as gun owners to skew those results so bad (so good?) that Mayor Adrian Fenty will blush.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dc/2008/06/dc_gun_ban_decision_poll_and_c.html?hpid=topnews
Also, I checked the DailyKos to see how they'd react. I was slightly surprised:
As for licensing an registration, isn't there some case where the USSC ruled that licensing a right by the government makes it a priviledge instead of a right. Also, if the government taxes the right by charging a fee for the license, isn't that akin to a poll tax? Cripes, the libs argue that making someone have an ID to vote is a poll tax because a drivers license costs about 20 bucks or so, even though it's valid for 4 years in most states.