Gun victim plans takeover revenge on manufacturer

Bulldog

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Gun victim plans takeover revenge on manufacturer

Dan Glaister
Wednesday June 16, 2004
The Guardian


A teenager paralysed by a gun accident 10 years ago is planning to buy the company that makes the weapon fired in the incident at a bankruptcy auction tomorrow.
Brandon Maxfield, now 17, was left paralysed when a babysitter fired a handgun owned by his parents.

Last year a jury awarded him $51m (£27.8m) damages, of which the gun manufacturer was made liable for $23m.

The following day Bryco Arms filed for bankruptcy. But the Maxfields' lawyers became suspicious when a $150,000 bid to buy the company was made by a former plant foreman.

At the same time as Bruce Jennings, the owner of Bryco, declared that he planned to retire from the business, his wife applied for a firearms sales licence.

Mr Maxfield is appealing on a website (brandonsarms.org) for donations to help him buy the company, which specialises in cheap firearms known as "Saturday night specials".

He plans to melt down the stock of 60,000 unassembled guns and close the company.

His lawyer, Richard Ruggieri, told USA Today: "The critical issue...is [preventing] the business from just being flipped over and continuing."

Bryco was found liable on the grounds that the faulty design of its gun, the P-38 semi-automatic, was partly to blame for the incident.

To unload it the safety catch had to be released. Mr Maxfield, then seven years old, was hit in the chin while the babysitter was trying to unload the weapon.

The babysitter and Mr Maxfield's parents were also found liable.

Mr Ruggieri told the website jointogether.org: "We're making an appeal for a white knight, if you will, to come forward and say, 'I don't want to see millions of these junk guns put back on the street. I'll pony up some money, sell off the machinery and maybe recover half of my money, and take a tax deduction for the rest'."

Bryco is one of many cheap gunmakers in an area of south California known for that reason as the "Ring of Fire".

They sprang up after the passing of the 1968 Gun Control Act, which banned the importation of cheap guns from abroad. Several companies in the Ring of Fire have sought bankruptcy and in the process they have avoided legal liability for incidents involving their firearms.

One had a total of 18 claims pending.

Senator Carl Levin of Michigan introduced a bill which would have prevented the tactic but it was defeated by Republicans, who argued that it would harm business.

Bryco is a highly successful gun manufacturer, two of whose weapons were in the top 10 firearms listed by the US government in a report in 2000 on guns used in crime.

The industry is exempted from US consumer safety controls: manufacturers cannot be prosecuted or fined by the state for breaches, although they can, as in this case, be sued by individual plaintiffs.

"There's nothing to prevent them from making the same defective guns and selling them on the streets, as long as they're willing to face the consequences in civil court - and I think that's exactly what they plan to do under a different name," Mr Ruggieri said.
 

joab

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I'm just going through my guns in my head and I can't think of any that that will empty a chambered round with the safety engaged, Of course I'm thinking mostly of my 1911s.
 

joab

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OK I'm wrong I just checked some
My Ruger MKI will not but my MKII will
None of my 1911s will
I believe my Beretta will
My 4043 will but it doesn't have a safety

Anyway why is it the Company's fault that an idiot pointed a gun at a child and pulled the trigger.

Why should this guy get a tax credit for deliberately sabotageing his business, if he gets it.

Wouldn't that constitute some sort of fraud, just as bad as arson if you ask me


Maybe a bunch of us should get together and buy the business and sell the guns for $39 a piece
 

Quartus

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Sounds like there's fraud enough to go around. This kid getting money from Bryco is a fraud, and it sounds like there's some fraud going on with the company.


Why don't we all chip in and buy it? :D
 

JohnK

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I'm just going through my guns in my head and I can't think of any that that will empty a chambered round with the safety engaged, Of course I'm thinking mostly of my 1911s.

The 9mm Witness will, you can still cycle the slide with the frame mounted safety on. I'm guessing the CZ-75 will as well since thats what the Witness is based on, but I can't confirm that.

I think pretty much any of the guns with a slide mounted safety will do it.

The question the parents should have asked is, why was the babysitter pointing the gun at the child while trying to unload it?
 

JohnK

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No problem joab, I'd bet a lot of 1911 fans would make the same assumption :D

I wouldn't want to guess which is more common in terms of total guns though: guns that can be unloaded with the safety on, or guns that can't. There are an awefull lot of 1911's and Brownings out there.

The teenager should use the money raised to teach people gun safety, that would likely save a hell of a lot more lives than melting down a bunch of cheap guns.
 

TheBluesMan

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At the risk of veering this thread too far...

My CZ-75B will not allow the slide to be moved with the safety on and the hammer back. If the hammer is down, the safety cannot be engaged either.

...now back to your regularly scheduled program.
 

joab

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TheBluesMan
I think that's at least partly what this is about. Ignorant juries and disreputable lawyers allowed a timeless and perfectly safe design feature to be maligned in order to further American's growing inability to accept responsibility for the own stupidity and their own greed.
The problem is some person pointed a loaded gun in an unsafe manner and in an unsafe direction and injured an innocent bystander the gun did not do anything it was not designed to do or waht a reasonable person would reasonably expect it to do.
Bryco has it's faults and the guns are certainly not state of the art but they should not be made to pay for an idiotic mistake outside of their control
 

alan

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Re people contributing THEIR money to such foolishness, in this country, the U.S. that is, the people still have the right to do dumb things, and some will.

As to the original verdict, ONLY IN CALIFORNIA seems appropriate.

Re pistols, and how they work, two points.

1. A mechanical device, ANY mechanical device can be made shock proof, water proof, you name it. Unfortunately NONE can be made IDIOT PROOF.

2. Though no longer produced, the Star Model 30, when it's safety was engaged, could be loaded, or unloaded, it's trigger could be pulled or squeezed, however the pistol would not fire. One could also "dry fire" the thing to their hearts content, without harm to the pistol, such was it's design. Of course, this is NOT to say that a 1911 type pistol or the Browning Hi-Power, or any other pistol which didn't work that way, was in any way, anything other than entirely safe for all but fools. Same thought would apply to the pistol that was a "party" to the original action.
 

Destructo6

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Bryco is one of many cheap gunmakers in an area of south California known for that reason as the "Ring of Fire".
I live in the middle of this area and I've never heard it described as the "Ring of Fire."

Yeah, how can you get a tax credit for running your business into the ground?
 

carebear

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sell off the machinery...

Let's see, I go to my commercial lender, say I can buy the machinery and plant to produce guns that revenued upteen mil the past 20 years at fire sale prices, get the start up capital, rehire the employees, maybe make a few mods (optional gangsta 90 deg. sites anyone?) and start selling "Bearco" pistols like hotcakes.

Sounds like a plan, sell away oh, illogical wronged one.
 

Tamara

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Those cheapo Saturday Night Specials from Wilson, STI, and Les Baer all share the same defect! There oughtta be a law! Somebody's at fault, and it can't be me, 'cause I was taught Self-Esteem!
 

Dead

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Somone should sue god for creating the faulty brain in the babysitters head. Treat every gun as if it were loaded = problem solved
 

TheBluesMan

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I can't let this thread go on any longer without saying that this unfortunate person is not a Gun Victim. He is a victim of Negligence!

:) Whew! I feel better now. :)
 

TheeBadOne

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Well said.
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