Fred Meyer stores just caved to 2nd. amendment haters
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Glenn E. Meyer
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The economic outcomes should be clear. If they are not significant, you are better off not posturing about boycotts.
How many businesses have had significant economic impacts with their signs banning open carry and concealed carry in TX? I haven't seen one story suggesting that this has happened. There are plenty of local economists who would have picked it up.
How many businesses have had significant economic impacts with their signs banning open carry and concealed carry in TX? I haven't seen one story suggesting that this has happened. There are plenty of local economists who would have picked it up.
spacemanspiff
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Did anyone ever see these retailers voicing their support of the 2nd Amendment when they began to sell guns/ammo? No, it was purely a financial move. They believed they could make a little more profits. And now that fewer customers are buying guns/ammo from some of these retailers, this is an opportune moment for them to jump on a bandwagon and make the rabblerouses happy for a moment.
Personally, whether or not these retail chain stores sell guns or ammo matters not to me. The only time that I saw any decent deals was when our Walmarts had ordered too much 5.56 ammo. I still haven't seen them selling bricks of 22lr ammo, and if they do, its still not down to the prices they were at before the shortages some years back.
What it does mean though is that your local gunstores might see a slight increase in business. No harm in supporting local businesses.
Personally, whether or not these retail chain stores sell guns or ammo matters not to me. The only time that I saw any decent deals was when our Walmarts had ordered too much 5.56 ammo. I still haven't seen them selling bricks of 22lr ammo, and if they do, its still not down to the prices they were at before the shortages some years back.
What it does mean though is that your local gunstores might see a slight increase in business. No harm in supporting local businesses.
Yeah gun owners threatening to boycott has become quite humorous to the anti-gun crowd.
The decision to stop selling these items at stores is very low risk. Any financial loss is minuscule. Announcing that they are doing it is virtue signaling.
They also are limiting the chances that a future mass shooter will have bought their gun or ammunition at their store, which could be costly in reputation and lost sales. In this day the entire supply chain gets litigated from the manufacturer down to the last person who owned the gun before the shooter. While mostly unsuccessful, defending those suits can’t be cheap.
FrankenMauser
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As mentioned, Kroger arguably didn't really even sell firearms.
Very few other stores carried ammunition.
In my region, we have Fred Meyer stores and Smith's Marketplace stores (same thing - different brand loyalty). Only one of them carried ammunition. Very little of it was ever sold, even when "on sale"; because it was still expensive, it was nearly impossible to get an employee to unlock the case, and you were escorted to a register for checkout once the ammunition was out of the case.
Eliminating ammunition sales won't hurt them. If anything, it will allow greater variety of other sporting goods to be carried that will probably sell better; and employees won't be delayed for 15 minutes because Bubba Joe needed a single box of "'them Remington .30-30s."
There isn't much change. It's just political appeasement.
Very few other stores carried ammunition.
In my region, we have Fred Meyer stores and Smith's Marketplace stores (same thing - different brand loyalty). Only one of them carried ammunition. Very little of it was ever sold, even when "on sale"; because it was still expensive, it was nearly impossible to get an employee to unlock the case, and you were escorted to a register for checkout once the ammunition was out of the case.
Eliminating ammunition sales won't hurt them. If anything, it will allow greater variety of other sporting goods to be carried that will probably sell better; and employees won't be delayed for 15 minutes because Bubba Joe needed a single box of "'them Remington .30-30s."
There isn't much change. It's just political appeasement.
Glenn E. Meyer
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Must have changed and I missed it.
It’s been awhile
It’s been awhile
We are the silent minority.
Why would one carry but talk about it. Why would you want to bring attention to it?
Why openly discuss guns on media sites where your boss or neighbor or thief would misuse that information?
Now with new laws, being publicly pro-gun is inviting someone to call the police saying you are dangerous without worry about repercussions.
All that said, how are we boycott or voice our side much less convince others that we aren't fighting to own a week end toy, that we value our ability to defend ourselves and family.
I think this is why many feel the NRA has hidden powers and are bewildered when votes are cast. We are a silent minority that does add up some of the time. It just doesn't get any headlines.
Why would one carry but talk about it. Why would you want to bring attention to it?
Why openly discuss guns on media sites where your boss or neighbor or thief would misuse that information?
Now with new laws, being publicly pro-gun is inviting someone to call the police saying you are dangerous without worry about repercussions.
All that said, how are we boycott or voice our side much less convince others that we aren't fighting to own a week end toy, that we value our ability to defend ourselves and family.
I think this is why many feel the NRA has hidden powers and are bewildered when votes are cast. We are a silent minority that does add up some of the time. It just doesn't get any headlines.
There’s actually groups of trolls that search social media for unsavory things like that and if they can figure out your employer, they will notify your company. I don’t post anything political on FB as a personal policy. My wife works at a place that she can’t post anything about guns or the like.
FrankenMauser
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Indeed.
I know two people - one through friends, one through an internet forum - that have been evicted from their places of business in the last two weeks, because their landlords checked the renters' personal Facebook pages and found 2A-related political views that they didn't like. Both were given essentially the same excuse by different landlords 1,300 miles apart: "We don't want our property to be associated with your kind."
Even though both were swing voters and heavily leaning toward "compromise" gun laws before, you can bet your bottom dollar which way they'll be voting now.
rwilson452
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I'm not worried. I suspect everyone in town knows I own guns. I serve as a trustee at my local rod and gun club. It says that on our web site. I'm my own landlord so I won't kick me out. I have been interviewed by one of the local rags.
I'm not worried. Some of the local juveniles seem to avoid me. I think that is a good thing.
I'm not worried. Some of the local juveniles seem to avoid me. I think that is a good thing.
Longhorn1986
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Here in Texas, Kroger actually stood up to the lefties and refused to post their stores 30.06 or 30.07 (no CC, no open carry). I just bought a couple of gun magazines from them Saturday, so they are still okay here. Of course, H-E-B will clean their clock if they dare go anti-gun in Texas.
YouTube seems to be expanding its anti-gun position according the story here from Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rm-sales-and-how-to-videos-prompting-backlash.
One of those banned, or at least suspenced, is Spikes Tactical. Another is InRange TV. It seems InRange has moved the site to an adult site.
I'm wondering if viewership will go up or down. Anybody heard what YouTube's newest criteria are?
One of those banned, or at least suspenced, is Spikes Tactical. Another is InRange TV. It seems InRange has moved the site to an adult site.
I'm wondering if viewership will go up or down. Anybody heard what YouTube's newest criteria are?TruthTellers
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New criteria is that any video that shows manufacturing a firearm or suppressor or magazine over 30 rounds will be removed and a strike put on the channels account. Also included is ammunition reloading videos and anything that shows how to make a bumpfire stock or use a bumpfire stock.YouTube seems to be expanding its anti-gun position according the story here from Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rm-sales-and-how-to-videos-prompting-backlash.
One of those banned, or at least suspenced, is Spikes Tactical. Another is InRange TV. It seems InRange has moved the site to an adult site.
I see the game Google/Alphabet is playing; they want as little knowledge about guns available. Videos that show how to build an AR from an 80% lower, how to assemble a stripped lower, how to assemble an upper, how to reload ammunition so you don't have to rely on factory ammo that in California (the headquarters of the big social media companies) that requires background checks, so you can't make your own suppressor on a lathe or work on a selector switch and a disconnector and make a full auto firearm are no longer allowed on their website.
It's all going to lead to the exodus from Youtube to another website that will put Youtube in danger of becoming the next AOL or Myspace. At the rate Youtube is going, they're going they're going to drive away a lot of content creators to better platforms.
The big one really is going to be when another video hosting website finds a way to pay people from advertisement revenue like Youtube use to do. Not that I hate Patreon, I just hate that it's not itself a video hosting website. I never used it when I made donations to Patreon for my favorite gun channels.
Its their game. Their board, their pieces, their rules.
Perhaps its time to consider that generations of people got the kind of information UTube is now going to restrict, from BOOKS.
Of course, books require a different kind and level of effort, and often a cash outlay, Old school and obsolete, perhaps, but once you own a book, its really tough for the website host to take it away from you...