I'm not trying to make this into scenario #2,354,802, but I have a question; We've been all over the "shoot or run" "cover" and countless offsprings of scenarios dealing with conduct before, during and after a perp does the BG routine.
Let's throw out the "are you really in danger?" aspect just to narrow it down, and let's disregard the "why were you in that, aren't you aware?" deal because like it or not, even in condition yellow, we can't avoid every single potentiality.
You are in say, an elevator or similar situation where flight is not an option, at least for a minute or so. A true BG pulls a knife or brass knuckles etc (the situation if he gets the jump on you with a gun is too obvious). You have your weapon, but no cuffs, because you are not a LEO. You are the only two there, and he's big enough that even if you subdue him, you can't just sit on him, and you're not a blackbelt, or too long in the tooth to use twenty year old training (I hate to be so narrow, but I don't want to leave it open to things like; hook kick, roundhouse, then full Nelson).
Let's even bring it to the point where you have properly brandished your gun, you are confident and steady. He has now dropped his knife, but is looking around the elevator - looking at the control box, etc. Of course, if you block the box, your back is now to the door. Going for your cell phone in such close quarters might be dangerous.
It takes time to do the "on your knees, lay down......palms up" deal. You could have him spread eagle on the side wall - whatever, but in ten more long seconds the door will open and you'll be in the lobby or dining room.
Any thoughts? I think it's a valid possibility, not just an exercise in discourse.
Let's throw out the "are you really in danger?" aspect just to narrow it down, and let's disregard the "why were you in that, aren't you aware?" deal because like it or not, even in condition yellow, we can't avoid every single potentiality.
You are in say, an elevator or similar situation where flight is not an option, at least for a minute or so. A true BG pulls a knife or brass knuckles etc (the situation if he gets the jump on you with a gun is too obvious). You have your weapon, but no cuffs, because you are not a LEO. You are the only two there, and he's big enough that even if you subdue him, you can't just sit on him, and you're not a blackbelt, or too long in the tooth to use twenty year old training (I hate to be so narrow, but I don't want to leave it open to things like; hook kick, roundhouse, then full Nelson).
Let's even bring it to the point where you have properly brandished your gun, you are confident and steady. He has now dropped his knife, but is looking around the elevator - looking at the control box, etc. Of course, if you block the box, your back is now to the door. Going for your cell phone in such close quarters might be dangerous.
It takes time to do the "on your knees, lay down......palms up" deal. You could have him spread eagle on the side wall - whatever, but in ten more long seconds the door will open and you'll be in the lobby or dining room.
Any thoughts? I think it's a valid possibility, not just an exercise in discourse.
