I'm considering the purchase of the Bond Arms Derringer Roughneck in .45 ACP. I'd like something I can shove in my pants or jacket pocket easily which isn't too heavy and some advice by people who carry one holstered, their viewpoint on the best-all around holster for CC. Some remarks on the gun itself if you own one would be appreciated. Thanks!
Does anyone here use a Bond Arms Derringer as a BUG?
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You do what seems right for you.
I've felt the nostalgic appeal of the Remington type O/U Derringers before.
They played a role in some Westerns I watched.
I don't know the Bond gun. I know some about the old Rem but not much.
I would not pocket carry one. The first shot is likely to miss and the second shot is slow. (And likely to miss)
I think a better choice can be made from the micro-nines. Just as small and light. If its the 45 ACP thing ,there is a Shield 45.
But thats for myself. You do you!
I've felt the nostalgic appeal of the Remington type O/U Derringers before.
They played a role in some Westerns I watched.
I don't know the Bond gun. I know some about the old Rem but not much.
I would not pocket carry one. The first shot is likely to miss and the second shot is slow. (And likely to miss)
I think a better choice can be made from the micro-nines. Just as small and light. If its the 45 ACP thing ,there is a Shield 45.
But thats for myself. You do you!
cc-hangfire
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Short answer: yes.
Long answer: My every-day-carry handgun is one of the micro-nine handguns with capacity of 7+1. Recently just for grins, I bought the Bond Arms 9mm Stinger model derringer to add to the BA original model in .357 and the Rough & Rowdy model in .45colt. Because of the light weight (aluminum frame) and very slim width, the Stinger has become a back-up-gun for me. It is not much larger than a NAA mini revolver, and - being single action with a rebounding hammer and cross bolt safety - I pocket carry it without a holster (I know some will gasp at the thought). With its substantial recoil, two round capacity, and with both a stiff hammer and stiff trigger, it is certainly not suitable as a primary carry handgun.
The Stinger is SUBSTANTIALLY lighter and thinner than the BA original or the BA Rough and Rowdy models. Certainly everyone makes their own decisions, but the little Stinger Bond Arms 9mm is the most convenient 9mm BUG that I have run across. Your mileage may vary.
Long answer: My every-day-carry handgun is one of the micro-nine handguns with capacity of 7+1. Recently just for grins, I bought the Bond Arms 9mm Stinger model derringer to add to the BA original model in .357 and the Rough & Rowdy model in .45colt. Because of the light weight (aluminum frame) and very slim width, the Stinger has become a back-up-gun for me. It is not much larger than a NAA mini revolver, and - being single action with a rebounding hammer and cross bolt safety - I pocket carry it without a holster (I know some will gasp at the thought). With its substantial recoil, two round capacity, and with both a stiff hammer and stiff trigger, it is certainly not suitable as a primary carry handgun.
The Stinger is SUBSTANTIALLY lighter and thinner than the BA original or the BA Rough and Rowdy models. Certainly everyone makes their own decisions, but the little Stinger Bond Arms 9mm is the most convenient 9mm BUG that I have run across. Your mileage may vary.
Bill DeShivs
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Almost any small revolver or auto is a better choice.
The Happy kaboomer
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What bill DeShivs said.............
dogtown tom
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Bill nailed it, Kaboomer sanded it, Don painted it.
I have a pre-WWII PPK that is nice to carry in a coat pocket. Also the PPKS in .380 that's nice as well. I also have a Kimber .45 acp Ultra Carry I picked up in the 1990s. Just a tad large for a pocket but still light. Back in my days as an LEO I sometimes carried a full size 1911 .45 acp under a t-shirt in a belt slide holster at my back.
cc-hangfire
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A visual comparison: S&W Airweight, Bond Arms original .357 (pink Mama Bear grips), Bond Arms Stinger 9mm thin grips, NAA .22mag holster grip.
For a BUG, where it is & how it’s accessed, how much room is available, how deep is the concealment, all will play into what is best.
For a BUG, where it is & how it’s accessed, how much room is available, how deep is the concealment, all will play into what is best.
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I had a customer bring me one a few weeks ago. He wanted the trigger (8-1/2 lbs) to be lighter. I got it down to 4.5 lbs and got rid of most of the creep/takeup on the trigger. It's a fun gun, meaning it's not for serious social situations. So no, I would never carry a beast like that for any kind of personal defense. It's only got 2 shots, and the triggers are AWFUL. Second, reloading after the first two shots was a 30 second affair, the extractor only draws the case back abour 3/8", meaning you have to dig the cases out with your fingers. They fit your hand like a brick. And they only have 2 shots!
I'm not sure who would want to carry one of these beasts as a personal defense pistol, but leave the cowboy stuff on internet TV and get a semi-auto pistol.
I'm not sure who would want to carry one of these beasts as a personal defense pistol, but leave the cowboy stuff on internet TV and get a semi-auto pistol.
Old Man in Ozarks
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Friend of mine had a Bond Arms in the .410/.45 version. It had the worst trigger ever. He sold it.
I have one of these in 45 ACP.
It's heavy for a derringer.
It almost takes two hands for me to cock it. It's awkward for me.
It's pretty accurate for what it is. And it's fun. I'll never get rid of it.
It's of almost no practical use to me. If you have big hands, it might be more useful. You need to try one out.
It's heavy for a derringer.
It almost takes two hands for me to cock it. It's awkward for me.
It's pretty accurate for what it is. And it's fun. I'll never get rid of it.
It's of almost no practical use to me. If you have big hands, it might be more useful. You need to try one out.
I don't have one, so I'm not quite answering your question (what people who own them use), but then, you weren't asking if you should carry a Derringer type pistol and that is what most people answered so...
I'm also in the that wouldn't be my choice camp, but I can see the allure. As an occasional thing, a nod to history, I could see the desire to do this from time to time (in the same way a SA revolver would), and it would have one good practical use. As a "get off me gun" that is backup to a larger gun it could have some utility. Like a revolver, at contact distances, when you are grappling/wrestling with your attacker it won't ever be pushed out of battery like an auto can, but in .40 or.45 caliber in a gun that easily fits in your pocket (my choice if I was to do it, like yours, would likely be .45ACP due to lower cost than .45LC).
For such an old school choice, my choice of holster would definitely be leather over nylon or kydex. My first thought was a pocket holster. But a quick search for holsters available for the Bond Arms Derringers brought me to the Bond Arms Driving holster, an on the belt crossdraw holster that looks interesting. Buy one for your weak hand and it seems to me that it would fit the most practical use of a Bond Arms Derringer well as your strong arm would likely be occupied with the struggle with your assailant. Another option, this does seem like a gun that would work as well as possible unholstered as someone mentioned above, though a holster will help position the gun vertically in your pocket so it is easier to draw.
I'm also in the that wouldn't be my choice camp, but I can see the allure. As an occasional thing, a nod to history, I could see the desire to do this from time to time (in the same way a SA revolver would), and it would have one good practical use. As a "get off me gun" that is backup to a larger gun it could have some utility. Like a revolver, at contact distances, when you are grappling/wrestling with your attacker it won't ever be pushed out of battery like an auto can, but in .40 or.45 caliber in a gun that easily fits in your pocket (my choice if I was to do it, like yours, would likely be .45ACP due to lower cost than .45LC).
For such an old school choice, my choice of holster would definitely be leather over nylon or kydex. My first thought was a pocket holster. But a quick search for holsters available for the Bond Arms Derringers brought me to the Bond Arms Driving holster, an on the belt crossdraw holster that looks interesting. Buy one for your weak hand and it seems to me that it would fit the most practical use of a Bond Arms Derringer well as your strong arm would likely be occupied with the struggle with your assailant. Another option, this does seem like a gun that would work as well as possible unholstered as someone mentioned above, though a holster will help position the gun vertically in your pocket so it is easier to draw.