Deer camp - which rifle?

Paul B.

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"Kind of terrain mentioned leads me to think on the ground hunting or as the older fellers call it Still hunting. Spontaneous reaction under such circumstances is required. Lever 336 would be a good common sense choice in your'e type hunting terrain. Bolt rifles mentioned on the other-hand are handicapped because of their assured deflection in the bush. Such high speed rifle cartridges do better when it and its shooter is perched up high with the partridges or the point of aim is steep down."

I'm not so sure I agree with you. A few of my early hunts were done with a 30-30 but switched to a 30-06 a few years later when I had the money to buy one. Most of that hunting was done up in the Northwest corner of the state of California which is covered by thick brush, tall trees and wide open clear cuts. I mostly hunted the brush and the 30-06 worked just fine. I've hunted California's rain forest, normal type ground and wide open spaces. At no time did I ever find a bolt action rifle be a handicap when jumping a deer.

If I were to hunt that area today (fat chance) I'd probably take my Ruger 77 RSI for the good weather days and my Remington 660 for the bad weather times. It's a custom with synthetic stock. Both rifles are chambered to the .308 Win.

On what the OP said, I chose the Ruger M77 in 7x57 Mauser because it's a darn good cartridge. It'll work at the shorter ranges and reach out and touch something to at least 300 yards of more, depending on the OP's shooting ability. These days, most of my rifles have variable scopes but on the hunt after a kill, I've noticed that the scopes were set on either the lowest setting, (2 or 3X) rather than some larger number. Most of my rifles have 3x9 scoped with one a 2x7. I've never had a problem taking game with the scopes set that way, whether the animal was a 6 feet or 530 yards. Personally I prefer to keep shot at 250 yards or less but do practice for the times when I can't get closer.
Paul B.
 

jrothWA

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I would select the following: C, A, then B.

I hunt in MI and I'm familiar with the first two actions and have a bias with B.
 

44 AMP

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thanks, I figured they would be. Back in the 60s/70s it was still common to see the Marlin/Winchester lever guns unslung and carried in the hands, but today, most folks see the advantage of a sling as a carry strap, at the least.

I'd still pick the Marlin for that area, the only thing I have against the .32 Special is the tendency for SOME of them to lose accuracy or have a radical shift in point of impact for no apparent reason.

By no means ALL of them, but some have done it, I've seen it more than once. Even my father's Win 94 .32Special had the point of impact shift so that it was hitting 6" low at 50yds when the previous year it was fine and the rifle was stored identically to what it had experienced for years.

Some say its the twist, I don't know, what I do know is that I've seen .32s go sour with no detectable wear to the barrel, or anything else. Same exact guns in .30-30 just don't seem to do it. Go figure...

If its shoot "on" the Marlin will be a fine choice and a little bit handier in thick cover than the longer barreled rifles.
 

Picher

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I'd choose the Ruger 77 1977 22" 1977 Leupold 2-7X 7x57 140 Sierra 2,829. The scope power range is the deciding factor.
 

gwpercle

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I would use the rifle I could shoot best .
More to the point ... the rifle I could place the very First shot most accurately .
Usually it's the first shot ... that gets the job done , so the rifle you can place the first bullet accurately with and do it quickly ... is the one to go with .

The stock needs to fit and the sights need to come to aim automatically and the shot fired effortlessly ... the caliber doesn't matter ... Making the first shot count matters .

I have an old model 95 Mauser in 7X57 in a Herter's sporter stock that fits me like this.
I can shoot and hit with my eyes closed ( well one eye closed at dusk anyways)
I didn't bed the triggerguard/magazine housing exactly right so it will feed only the top round but that's OK ... I have never needed a second shot ...that's the gun I hunt deer and hogs with !
Gary
 

Picher

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My "Go-To" deer-hunting rifle is one of four Rem. 700 rifles that I own, Two 270 Win, and two .243 Win. I used to have a .30-06, but gave it to my son.
 

Paul B.

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According to the Speer #9 Manual in their reference section, the Marlin and Winchester rifles have a 1 in 12" twist. The .32 Winchester special guns have a 1 in 16" twist. The 30-30 fouled badly during the early days when black powder was used to reload the cartridges. The twist was just too fast for black powder loads. Thus, Winchester brought out the .32 WS. If could shoot the smokeless powder load fairly well and those who preferred black powder could do so without the heavy barrel fouling. The 1 in 16" twist that was used was the same as the black powder 32-40 Winchester.
Paul B.
 

shafter

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Can't go wrong with the Marlin although I have a Model 77 that I use just as much.

With regard to the sling I don't hunt without one. I don't always keep it on the gun though. I may take it off from time to time but always have it with me.

Brush deflects anything that hits it. If the brush is really close to the animal it might not deflect enough to matter but the father away to brush and the animal is the deflection is going to be significant. That's not even considering how much the bullet will deform.
 

hooligan1

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A few years back I finished a 7x57 mauser build and that rifle is going deer hunting with me this year.
It has a Shilen Match with a 1:8.25 inch twist barrel.. #3 profile, 22". It adores 175 grn SBT's from Sierra and 7828 powder...
3-9×40 Leupold scope... Shots will be less than 100 yds...
 

Paul B.

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"A few years back I finished a 7x57 mauser build and that rifle is going deer hunting with me this year.
It has a Shilen Match with a 1:8.25 inch twist barrel.. #3 profile, 22". It adores 175 grn SBT's from Sierra and 7828 powder..."


If I may be so bold, would you mind telling me the load for the bullet using 7828 Powder? I bought a bunch of it for a .280 Rem. and the .280 and that powder don't get along all that well... TIA.
Paul B.
 

CCCLVII

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At that range I dont think I would use a scope unless I had eye issues. If it was me I would go with the Marlin.
 

Picher

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I'd probably be most comfortable with the Marlin, but I normally use a Rem 700 BDL, 3-9X scope, in .270 Win and would take that, if available. It's made one-shot kills on deer from 20 to 300 yards.
 

Picher

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I happen to love bolt-actions. My deer rifle is a .270 Win, Remington 700 Stainless that shoots one-hole groups at 100 yards. I free-floated the barrel, pillar-bedded the action, and mounted a great Leupold 3-9X Stainless scope on her.

She's gotten several deer, including one buck, shot Left-Handed, as it ran away from my tree-stand. I may have that rifle buried with me, but not planning to pass, for quite a few years.
 

Drm50

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My favorite eastern deer guns don’t have scopes. Rem 141 / 35 cal, Win 1895 in 30/06 and Marlin Maurader 30/30. This year recovering from some health issues will be hunting from stand with a Ruger#3 in 375 Win. Limited to straight case cartridges in Ohio. I’m running a scope on in. I never hunt from stand and usually under 100yd shot. SE Ohio ruff and thick my deer usually taken on the “wing”. I have bolt guns with scopes don’t like they in the woods.
 
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