Case stuck in chamber after hd separation

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1stmar

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Cw308 I'm traveling so will probably call utg tomorrow if I get a moment. I'm pretty diligent about cleaning guns, especially guns that are shooters which this is. I only had 14 rds through it since my last cleaning. Will definetly update the post after I talk w utg.

Thanks all
 
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James K

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You don't need to close the bolt, if the "fingers" spring into place ahead of the case mouth, you need only insert a cleaning rod from the muzzle and tap the case out.

Jim
 
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1stmar

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Thanks Jim. I don't think the fingers/sleeve is riding up far enough over the "bulb" and expanding. I am able to close the bolt enough to engage the extractor and when I pull the bolt back it only ejects the tool.
 
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cw308

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1stmar
It seems like they sent you a 308 is the tool labeled 30-06. When you get the right extractor the case will come out just as easy as pulling the bolt back with a fired case. Even though you didn't get the extractor from Brownells give then a call . The UTG extractor may have problems with the tool. The one I got from Brownells worked perfectly everytime someone used it. I keep it in my range bag. If I had different calibers I would buy one for everyone. You wouldn't want to go through this again.
 
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1stmar

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The bag indicated it was an 06. I don't know if the tool is marked. I did place it along side an 06 case and it is similar length.
 
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cw308

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1stmar
Can it be adjusted further out , seem like its not getting past the case mouth. You are triming your brass. I'm sure you are , just have to ask. A long case would cause pressure problems.
I called Brownells on your problem. They will have the right extractor, speak to a tech.
 
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RC20

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I've linked a well-respected online resource backing up my comments. Please do the same.
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If you can measure .0015 more power to you.

Not all use Lapua by close to any stretch (pun intended)

I did state that bench rest types that are serious shooters will have some resistance.

I just don't agree that its worth for the average casual bench rest shooter, you won't see a return of any kind and you will struggle mightily.
 
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1stmar

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Ok. I think I'm taking it to a smith. Nothing on the shell extractor says it an 06 but I think it is. I cut a case and it looks like it is the right size. I believe the issue is the collet sleeve was not expanding and catching the case mouth. So i cut a piece of plastic and used it as a spacer to add some length and ensure I could get the case extractor into the case and past the case mouth. It seemed to work. I tapped it into the case with a cleaning rod so it was all the way in the chamber. Then put the bolt in and closed it. I was unable to pull the bolt handle back. So I think it was securely past the case mouth. I put a cleaning rod in the muzzle end and proceeded to tap it out. The case is till in the chamber. I dropped some oil into the chamber and repeated a few times with no luck. I think the utg shell extractor is not designed well but the spacer I put in was effective. Not wishing to do any damage I think I will let a pro handle it. I'm wondering if I didn't really have complete case separation but rather the case got stuck somehow and when I opened the bolt I ripped off the head.
 
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cw308

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If you have a GS they will get it out safely. Did you have any problems with hard extractions before?
 
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1stmar

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No. I dble weigh every charge and bullet impact was the same as the previous 13 shots. Very tight. Nothing about the shot felt abnormal. Recoil, bullet placement, bolt lift. Odd ...
 
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cw308

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1stmar
What a bummer, everything going good and this happens. Sounds like a bad case. Do you mix case brands or keep a record on how many times its resized.? I'm a bench rest shooter, I'll shoot the same 30 rounds, when one shows any sigh of over use . I Dump them all & start with another 30. If I reach 25 firings I'll start with another 30 new cases. Get yourself a better stuck case extractor , just to be safe & piece of mine. They do work well. You are measuring case length each time I hope. Sorry I couldn't help.

Chris
 
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1stmar

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Very reluctant to stick a file in the chamber. Really don't trust myself, don't have a good bench vise. Cw308 you've been very helpful as have others. I have a good local gsmith so should be ok. I didn't see an 06 extractor other than the one I found.
I do not mix headstamps. I don't count firings either. I need to start. The reason I don't is sometimes I go to the range with 40rds and Fire some odd number maybe 35 or 17 for example. Now I have a mix and it becomes a pain. But something I need to address.
 
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cw308

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1stmar
Let us know when you get that case out. Give Brownells a call for another extractor, I gave them a call about your problem. They have a stuck case extractor, speak to a teck. Don't attempt to use a file on your shooter.

Chris
 
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1stmar

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I haven't, its at my lgs. Since he has it, I am having some other work done. I am converting it to a dbm and having a tactical bolt knob installed. I dropped it off sat and he wasn't there so I have to follow up this week on the lead time. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's not. :).
 
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cw308

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1stmar
Sounds good , make sure the new bolt knob lift clears the scope. You left the scope on . Find out what tool he used to remove the case. You went the right route getting it to your gunsmith. Its like getting a new toy when you get it back.
 
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1stmar

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Didn't leave the scope on as I figured he will have to r move it to put the dbm in. I'll speak to him and bring it back up. Thanks for the heads up
 
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1stmar

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Gun is finished picking it up next week. G/s couldn't get the case out without taking the barrel off. Polished the chamber after he got it out. Will know more next week.
 
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