California: Man released in death of intruder

Onward Allusion

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What exactly is the point? Break into someone else's home in the middle of the night that is not your own while in a drunken stupor and there will be consequences, even in ultra liberal San Francisco, CA. These kinds of occurrences happen more often than not across the country. Why would this be big news? I mean the idiot broke in on a senior citizen with a gun. Who here could condemn the old guy?

Bottom line, lots of people shouldn't drink. LOTS.
 

manta49

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That's where shoot first and ask questions later can end in this type of incident. Just because you are legally entitled to shoot someone doesn't mean it has to be the only option. There were other option in that situation that might not have ended in the mans death. If it was me shooting would be the last option not the first.
 

tipoc

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In post number 1 and 8 I noted two cases where charges were not brought against the shooter. Now what's different from those and the Minnesota case where a man was charged were charged? Or where folks have shot blindly through doors or went through expensive trials and served some jail time?

Not everyone does agree that Rule 3 regarding identifying your target is a good one. So they shoot through a closed door.

tipoc
 

manta49

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Not everyone does agree that Rule 3 regarding identifying your target is a good one. So they shoot through a closed door
Anyone shooting through a door without identifying their target needs locked up.
 

Frank Ettin

Administrator
Some good examples of how exactly what happened and how it happened (and where it happened) can make a big difference.

The cases cited in posts 1 and 8 were fairly clear examples of possible home invasions. In the first, the person shot broke in; and in the second, the person shot entered through a closed, but apparently unlocked, door. In each, the person shot was identified by the shooter as a stranger to the household. And both incidents occurred in the early morning hours (1:40 am and 4:30 am, respectively).

In the Albrecht case cited in post 18 by DNS, the shooter claimed to have shouted several warnings before firing through the door at the sound of someone apparently trying to get in. The shooter was "no billed" by the Texas grand jury. But clearly firing through a door at an unidentified target is at best unwise1, and at worst reckless. The shooter was probably lucky; and there can be no guarantee that someone else under different circumstances would be so.

There were additional complicating factors in the Minnesota and Montana cases (e. g., apparently the setting of a trap, not identifying the target, continuing the use of force after the threat ceased (Minnesota) and delay in reporting (Minnesota)). The shooter in Minnesota was convicted of first degree murder. The one in Montana has thus far merely been charged.

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1. Under the Jeff Cooper/Gunsite Rules of Safe Gun Handling, "always be sure of your target" is Rule 4.

 

VonFatman

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Seems to me that the apartment dweller did just fine in terms of "making sure of his target". Can't argue with his placement of the sights on the intruder.

Bob
 
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