Bullpups, why do I love them so much?

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Teirst

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Ever since the first time I watched Die Hard and saw the BG with a AUG I have been in love with the idea of a bullpup. The first time I saw a FS2000 I thought to myself wow, so that is where weapons are going. I have had the opportunity to try a couple of them (g22, f2000) but both were very limited and I think my memory might be tainted by how great I EXPECTED them to be.

So what is it that makes the "idea" of the bullpup weapon so great?
 
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thesheepdog

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So what is it that makes the "idea" of the bullpup weapon so great?
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Compactness, without sacrificing barrel length. The bolt/chamber is right against your shoulder. By no means can they be used against normal rifles in prone accuracy, they're not designed to shoot accurately in the prone position-too much bulk.
 
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Teirst

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The controversy blows me away. Seems like there are very strong arguments as to why they are/are not better then the standard rifle.

I was a repeat of future weapons the other day, I think they were showing the Iraq military (some middle east country) training with fs2000. Shooting prone did look a little strange, but they did it.
 
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Jo6pak

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A like the idea of bullpups also. Shooting prone is not too difficult with a little practice, especially with a vertical forgrip, such as on the AUG.

Biggest disadvantage is the inability to quickly transition to left hand shooting. If not for that issue, I would probably own an AUG:)
 
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ShipWreck

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Bullpups rock. I personally don't care for the feel of the FS2000. But, I've had a PS90 for 4 years. I gave an MSAR AUG a chance when I bought one last Dec. I ended up selling it and buying a 2nd PS90 2 months ago, because I prefer the platform and company support is better.

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5RWill

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I really like the steyr AUG A3. Hell looking at the civilian rifle version i like the looks of it might have to add it to the collection in a couple years. Like the Tavor also but i dislike the bulkiness of his stock.
 
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KChen986

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I'm getting 16" performance out of a 10.5" SBR AR sized package. The 20" AUG is about the same size as a 14.5" barreled M4. So you basically get rifle-length performance out of a carbine sized rifle. In other words, the bull pup offers rifle-length ballistics without the additional size penalty.
 
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5RWill

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Agreed on the trigger it looks horrible i've never used one but to me it resembles a toy trigger..just looks wrong and all.
 
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10mmAuto

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I'm not even talking aesthetic, the trigger pulls are typically in the neighborhood of 12lbs and feel pretty uneven throughout their length.
 
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Cameron Ferriere

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cuz they have that mall ninja aesthetic??

I freely admit to falling for it myself... Glocks, Steyrs, and I own a couple Microtech otf and switchblade knives which are pretty much toys cuz ye can't carry em... I DO want a MSAR AUG clone in 7.62x39 or 6.8 spc with a 20" barrel and the 1.5 optic!! soooo mall ninja but it just appeals to me more then the ar15's. I realize the ar's have better triggers and are more accurate but the aug just appeals more... totally illogical but there it is. Just like I don't like 1911's much prefer H&K's, Glocks, Walthers, and Steyr M series pistols.
 
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Cameron Ferriere

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Also a drop in part called the Neu Trigger is supposed to make the trigger on the AUG and it's clones much better. It's apparently a $25 drop in part that lessens trigger pull and gets rid of much of the AUG's mushiness. Not up to AR territory of course but much better!!
a personal review from another forum:

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/g...-stg-aug-owners-neu-trigger-range-report.html

and I am in now way involved with any of the vending or anything I just want an MSAR!!!
 
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flight954

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I like the fact that you have 16" barrel accuracy in a compact package. My MSAR usually makes it to every range trip.:D
I'm now eyeing the Bushmaster M17 now that you can pick one up for 600 smackers
 
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MacGille

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problem is they're ugly, balance is all at the rear, muzzle is very light, bad trigger, questionable accuracy. And they're ugly.
 
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5RWill

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To each his own... while some bullpups are ugly, the Steyr AUG A3 isn't IMO, it's a beautiful rifle when in SBR profile.
 
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