Bren Ten - start praying for resurrection

JustJake

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"Meh"
They actually make Tanfoglio 10mm handguns. Any reason not to get one of them?

Yep. Q.C. is spotty and inconsistent, and if you have any malf issues with the gun or the magazine, you have to deal with Tanfoglio's importer, EAA, and their "gunsmith," alleged anyway. :rolleyes:
 

JustJake

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FWIW, I had a Bren Ten and didn't think it was the greatest. IMHO 10mm pistols that came after are better guns. If someone did reintroduce the Bren ten, I wouldn't be in the market.....ymmv
The original magazines were supposed to work reliably with both .45 and 10mm. Didn't work out so well. I toured the plant and worked SHOT with D&D one year, but can't remember the other details of the magazine issues now.....

The most reliable all-steel 10mm pistols (with reliable magazines) that were built to handle a steady diet of real 10mm ammo, were S&W's 3rd Gen 10XX-series. I've owned four models and still have two.

Delta Elites and other 10mm 1911s can be set up to handle full-power 10mm loads IF they're properly sprung and tweaked with little durability "tricks" - like a fitted EGW firing pin stop and a properly tensioned mainspring.

Maybe some folks here weren't aware, but the CZ Custom Shop offers a 10mm 97B for $2500, in case you're looking to spend your Stimulus $$$ on something interesting. ... Not a real Bren Ten, but maybe sufficiently B.T.-ish, and no doubt it comes with a much higher level of Q.C. than Tanfoglio's 10mm Witnesses.

Here's the link: https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/czc-97b-10mm-accu-custom.html
 
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bac1023

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That isn’t CZ’s custom shop. CZ Custom and CZ are two different companies. They build nice guns. Some use CZ frames, but some don’t.

CZ does not offer a 10mm.

Just FYI
 

JustJake

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That isn’t CZ’s custom shop. CZ Custom and CZ are two different companies. They build nice guns. Some use CZ frames, but some don’t.
CZ does not offer a 10mm.
Just FYI
Good point made ...
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Bart Noir

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I'd just like to point out that it wasn't long ago that the Internet Wisdom seemed to be that Colt's would never be able to make new Pythons.

And yet they are, with reviews seeming to be favorable.

So don't give up all hope on the B-10 resurrection.

Bart Noir
 

hemiram

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I'm pretty sure the old crabby guy hasn't been at EAA for a while now. Last time I dealt with them, I spoke to a very nice woman and had my parts in a couple of days.
 

TruthTellers

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Besides the Beretta 92, what semi auto DA/SA's were selling at such a pace before the panic buying last year that showed there is much demand for a new DA/SA to come to market, let alone one in 10mm?

The 10mm may be resurging, but other than some 1911's, the industry is painfully slow in bringing new pistols in the chambering to market. Seems the industry is more interested in making pistols in 5.7mm, not 10mm.
 

bac1023

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I'd just like to point out that it wasn't long ago that the Internet Wisdom seemed to be that Colt's would never be able to make new Pythons.

And yet they are, with reviews seeming to be favorable.

So don't give up all hope on the B-10 resurrection.

Bart Noir

They aren’t making the Python. They introduced a new revolver and gave it the same name. It’s completely different
 

Bart Noir

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They aren’t making the Python. They introduced a new revolver and gave it the same name. It’s completely different

Well, yes, it is a new revolver. Improved and better suited to modern manufacturing methods and limitations.

But any new pistol called the Bren Ten will also be improved and better suited to modern manufacturing methods and limitations. Heck, Computer Numerical Controlled (CNC) machining didn't even exist when the Python assembly line was set up.

My point is that it could happen that Bren Tens are born again.

Bart Noir
Who meant that "limitations" means lack of experienced and affordable workers to hand fit Python components.
 

bac1023

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Well, yes, it is a new revolver. Improved and better suited to modern manufacturing methods and limitations.

But any new pistol called the Bren Ten will also be improved and better suited to modern manufacturing methods and limitations. Heck, Computer Numerical Controlled (CNC) machining didn't even exist when the Python assembly line was set up.

My point is that it could happen that Bren Tens are born again.

Bart Noir

“Improved” would be a matter of opinion. Is it stronger? Yes it most definitely is, but so is a Ruger GP100.

My point is that Colt building a new revolver and calling it a Python has nothing to do with another company resurrecting the Bren Ten. Unlike Colt, D&D is long out of business. It’s apples and oranges.
 

Webleymkv

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Will Don Johnson even be using a Bren Ten in this show? IIRC, he only used one for the first and second season of the original show and then switched to a S&W 645 for seasons three and four before finally using a S&W 4506 in the fifth (and final) season. In the video the OP linked, he seems to be using a 1911 variant of some type in the one and only scene he's holding a gun. Also, Colin Farrell's portrayal of the character in the 2006 film used a somewhat exotic 1911 variant as his primary handgun.

Considering that the premise of the show is older characters coming out of retirement decades later, a 1911 might better fit the type of character they're trying to portray (similar to the .38 Super Don Johnson used in Nash Bridges).
 

Jim Watson

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Unlike Colt, D&D is long out of business.

Colt, like most of the other well known gun companies, has changed hands so many times that there is nothing left but the trademark.

I think that if the New Bren Ten followed the Voit redesign, it would be a better gun and let the Franklin Mint types complain about its lack of originality.
 

bac1023

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True Jim, it would be improved. The D&D model had its issues.

Not sure it’s going to happen at this point. Colt brought back their own revolver (albeit much different). To me that’s different than another company making a copy of a long discontinued pistol from a long dead company.

Colt is still Colt, regardless of its checkered history
 

RickB

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Will Don Johnson even be using a Bren Ten in this show? IIRC, he only used one for the first and second season of the original show and then switched to a S&W 645 for seasons three and four before finally using a S&W 4506 in the fifth (and final) season. In the video the OP linked, he seems to be using a 1911 variant of some type in the one and only scene he's holding a gun. Also, Colin Farrell's portrayal of the character in the 2006 film used a somewhat exotic 1911 variant as his primary handgun.

In the TV show pilot, Sonny carried a SIG P220, I think? Then the Bren, followed by S&W.
Interestingly, the shoulder rig worn with the Bren Ten was made by Ted Blocker, and Galco got on board only when the gun changed to a S&W. Ted Blocker still has the Bren Ten mock-up sent to them by the studio, and will make the '80s version of the shoulder holster and harness on request.
I know they sold a few, circa 2009, when the Vltor Fortis/Bren Ten appeared to be on the verge of release.
 
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