.308 Carbine suggestions?

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Dashunde

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Its time to add a all-purpose semi-auto rifle to my collection.
I'm looking for a 16-17" carbine .308 of decent quality at minimal expense (think Glock/CZ persona).
Ideally it would have a accessory rail and able to mount a scope on top and a Burris FastFire at 45 degrees or on on the side for short range.

Basically I'm looking for something like the SA M1A, a AR-10 without the handle or maybe a Remington 750.

By all-purpose I mean capable of deer hunting, defense, bear defense, hogs, rapid fire up close and reasonably good accuracy out to a couple hundred yards or so.

I really dont know much about rifles, I mostly need a shopping list of well known decent quality items that are a good value... Suggestions?
 
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allaroundhunter

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It will be hard to find a lightweight and maneuverable .308 carbine. The rifles that have been mentioned all are quite heavy and have longer barrels (with the possible exception of the Rock River).
 
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Patriot86

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SIG 716 is pretty small as far as a 308 Carbine....cheap? Depends on how you define cheap.

The PTR-91/HK-G3 clones are a BATTLE RIFLE clone. Not a carbine by any stretch. Much more of a DMR/Target type rifle.
 
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ATW525

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The PTR-91/HK-G3 clones are a BATTLE RIFLE clone. Not a carbine by any stretch. Much more of a DMR/Target type rifle.
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PTR Industries make quite a few carbine models with 16" barrels.
 
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allaroundhunter

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Ruger GSR
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I understand getting confused in the longer threads, but seriously, you are poster #7 and you didn't even read enough of the OP to see this?...

Its time to add a all-purpose semi-auto rifle to my collection.
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Heck, that is the first sentence of the OP. Try to ready more than just the title of a thread before responding...
 
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roashooter

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quote..." I really do not know much about rifles......." kinda gives the clue that other options...other than "SEMI-AUTO".....should/could/would be considered....considering the general doitall aspect of the carbine......but thanks for pointing this out for me...allaroundhunter....cuzIdontread good...

and it is a stretch....to describe a SA M1A...as a carbine...even with the short barrel.....
 
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Dashunde

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^ Yea, but not new to rifles in general (born in the woods), just dont know much about what is currently available or what is a good bargin.
I am looking for semi-auto. That bolt isnt far off the mark overall, just looking for rapid fire ability at closer range (hogs, bears, elk, wolves, moose, etc)

I'm trying to stay under $1000 - So any respectable short 308 semi-auto suggestion is appriciated.

Its part of the budget for a extended vacation/drive to Alaska via Yellowstone, NW Idaho, and on up the AlCan during the thawed/warmer season - a 2 year plan is in the works :)

Great suggestions, I didnt know most of those existed, thanks and keep them coming :)
 
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allaroundhunter

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and it is a stretch....to describe a SA M1A...as a carbine...even with the short barrel.....
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The Socom 16 and Socom II are both part of the M1A line. Having a 16" barrel puts them into the "carbine" category quite easily as far as most people are concerned. I don't know what about it would make you think otherwise?
 
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roashooter

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allaround....by your own posting.....SA are too heavy for "carbines"....inspite of what SA says.....otherwise why are you nitpicking?
 
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allaroundhunter

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You might be able to find a DPMS Sportical .308 for under $1,000. There really won't be many other .308s at that price range.

I forgot about this one for a second. A Saiga in .308 can be found for less than $1,000 quite regularly.

allaround....buy your own posting.....SA are too heavy for "carbines"....inspite of what SA says
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I don't know when I gave a specific weight limit to classify a gun as a "carbine"?

Having shot both Socom II's and AR-10 pattern rifles, the Socom is much more maneuverable. I haven't even looked at Springfield's specifications on this. Numbers on a page mean much less than hands-on experience.


And when I made the comment concerning weight and maneuverability I was specifically referring to the FNAR and PTR-91.
 
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Dashunde

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"Carbine", "Ranch Gun", etc... I dont care, so long as its 16-17", the rest is symantics.
I'm open to all of them really, regardless of nomenclature.

Weight is important, I would like to walk with it, but price will play a equally large role.
 
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Departed402

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I'm in the same boat you are, same philosophies if use and everything! I ordered a DPMS 308 Recon. It will suit all of your specified needs. I'm getting mine for $1275.00.
 
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Patriot86

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Maybe you should rethink a .308 Semi-Auto Carbine for under $1,000.00.
In that price range you would perhaps be better off looking for something in 7.62x39 or saving up until you have a little more cash to drop.

PTR-91 will run you about $1,000.00 but they are by no means light. AK's are not that light either but the ammunition will be much less expensive.

Of the creatures you listed below the only one I am unsure of would be 7.62x39 vs a Bear. I have not and do not know anyone who has had to shoot at bear with an AK or SKS type rifle. Despite what you read; you can hit man sized targets out past 100 yards with an AK style rifle.
 
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