Im thinking a 1911 will be my next piece. I am new to 1911's, so I have learned a bit the last few days. I thought all guns longer than 3" barrel had the extended grip. Kimber makes a couple of 4" barrel models with the shorter grip (called compact) and springfield has a 3.5, but im not sure if they have a 4". I carry at 3 oclock, so the shorter grip length is better for me. I have decided to go with the 4" and pass on the 3". I still need to look at STI and a few more manf. I want to make sure I get it right before throwing down a grand or more.