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.25 acp with trailboss
- Thread starter tangolima
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FrankenMauser
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Haven't tried it.
Some quick estimates from a certain ballistic calculator put a 95% charge (0.83 gr) at ~5,600 psi and about 475 fps; with a COAL .905" with a 50 gr RN. (Trying to maximize powder capacity - seating deeper just makes things even more sketchy.)
So definitely watch for squibs.
I think if I were to do it, I'd count donuts (granules) rather than weigh the charges.
Some quick estimates from a certain ballistic calculator put a 95% charge (0.83 gr) at ~5,600 psi and about 475 fps; with a COAL .905" with a 50 gr RN. (Trying to maximize powder capacity - seating deeper just makes things even more sketchy.)
So definitely watch for squibs.
I think if I were to do it, I'd count donuts (granules) rather than weigh the charges.
Thanks. Was it quickload that you used? There are too many donuts to count in 0.83gr of trailboss, I am afraid. I plan to dribble at first and to make a powder measure out of a 22lr casing when I find the load.
I surely will pay attention to squids, as always with any other calibers.
I heard I lot of people said 25 acp not worthy of hand loading. I wonder they knew the going price of the caliber. North of 30 cents a round at the moment. I'm doing it!
-TL
I surely will pay attention to squids, as always with any other calibers.
I heard I lot of people said 25 acp not worthy of hand loading. I wonder they knew the going price of the caliber. North of 30 cents a round at the moment. I'm doing it!
-TL
berettaprofessor
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My advice would be to buy another powder; something with established data in the 25ACP. I've loaded 45, 45lc, and rifle rounds with trail boss for soft loads but I wouldn't try anything smaller.
But if you do try trail boss, please report back so others can learn from your experience.
But if you do try trail boss, please report back so others can learn from your experience.
I will start with trailboss and will get other powder if needed. I like trailboss and have used it for loads with no published data; 7.62 Nagant, 38 s&w with hot glue bullets etc. It is easy to ignite, fast burning, low energy, and low density. It is well behaving as long as not compressed. It becomes hard to throw below 2gr though, so some other method must be use.
Will report back. In the meantime, any input or comment is welcome.
-TL
Will report back. In the meantime, any input or comment is welcome.
-TL
I tried accurate 5in .380 and despite great promise, it wasn't good not enough pressure, heat, overall power to fire that charge. I suggest the wildest, craziest primer possible, back your beginning load off a little more.
Accurate five threw out unburned powder that was still shiny, not eve scorched
You can test for sunburned powder by wrapping tape around cardboard sticky side out and shooting through it. You can use magnification or snap a picture and view with magnification.
I'm just concerned, as some others are, that you can't get proper burn with 6,000 psi and a grain of powder, specifically a slow one.
Not saying don't try it, but don't put your vintage Browning at risk until you've proven the load.
Accurate five threw out unburned powder that was still shiny, not eve scorched
You can test for sunburned powder by wrapping tape around cardboard sticky side out and shooting through it. You can use magnification or snap a picture and view with magnification.
I'm just concerned, as some others are, that you can't get proper burn with 6,000 psi and a grain of powder, specifically a slow one.
Not saying don't try it, but don't put your vintage Browning at risk until you've proven the load.
A .22 case might be too big. Typical loads runs less than 2 grains. Give Hodgdon a call and ask 'em. Or go here.
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/contact
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/contact
22lr casing could be too big, which is good. I will file it down for the load.
The caliber needs fast burning powder. Don't have accurate 5 on my burn rate chart. Is it faster or slower than red dot? I think trailboss would do well, especially for cast bullets. I will see.
-TL
The caliber needs fast burning powder. Don't have accurate 5 on my burn rate chart. Is it faster or slower than red dot? I think trailboss would do well, especially for cast bullets. I will see.
-TL
Accurate #5 is slower than Red Dot. Exactly how much I don't know for sure, haven't used it a lot but I think of it as closer to Unique than to Red Dot
TB is in your burn rate range but it's so bulky I wonder if you can fit enough of it into the case to be useful. Let us know what you find
TB is in your burn rate range but it's so bulky I wonder if you can fit enough of it into the case to be useful. Let us know what you find