I was in WalMart tonight and picked up 4 boxes of Winchester 9mm Nato. I asked the clerk for 124gr. 9s and he handed me these. I bought them without really checking and it was only after I got them home that I realized that these are listed as being 10% hotter than standard 124gr. 9s. Anyone have any experience with this load? I would imagine that it's essentially 9mm +P. Next question: what about shooting it from my CZ 75B? The manual for my gun says nothing about whether this load is ok or a no-no.