9 vs 45 yeah its been done. I know all the the opinions and data that isnt what Im about here.
I am confused on the conclusions people are coming too about the rounds and their ranking under certain usages.
some background. A friend has everything in 9mm. Thats fine, a perfectly serviceable round I agree. When I mentioned buying his new gun in 45 instead the question of why came up, apparently because 9mm is every bit as capable as .45.
here is my issue.
I understand if you want to stock one caliber. Not an issue here
I understand if you require higher capacity in a particular size platform. Also not an issue
I ...you get the idea. if you can't handle .45. No issue
He by the numbers has no reason to choose 9 over 45 aside from the belief 9 performs as good of better than 45. His own words.
the impression I got was he believed all other variables being equal 9mm performed the same as .45. My response was bullet technology what it is 9mm ammo performs well but no matter what a .45 of the same level is always making a larger hole. He made the point of penetration being more (18in) with 9mm. His entire thought process seems to center on 9mm is as good as .45 because it goes as deep and expands great with modern bullet technology.
My issues. So the heck what. No matter how well it expands a .45 with the same bullet ends up larger.
Yes you can get +p whatever 9 but you can get faster 45 too and the guns he has can fire even 45 super.
penetration to 18 inches is not to offend here but BS. Who are you shooting that is 18 inches thick! Im not exactly skinny and that would pass right through me. A bigger hole 10 inches deep is going to be more use on any normal "bad dude" than a smaller one at 18. Any normal human and you are hitting ribs and organs at 5 inches anyway.
So, dollars to doughnuts outside factors (capacity etc) aside how can 9 stack up to .45?
I am confused on the conclusions people are coming too about the rounds and their ranking under certain usages.
some background. A friend has everything in 9mm. Thats fine, a perfectly serviceable round I agree. When I mentioned buying his new gun in 45 instead the question of why came up, apparently because 9mm is every bit as capable as .45.
here is my issue.
I understand if you want to stock one caliber. Not an issue here
I understand if you require higher capacity in a particular size platform. Also not an issue
I ...you get the idea. if you can't handle .45. No issue
He by the numbers has no reason to choose 9 over 45 aside from the belief 9 performs as good of better than 45. His own words.
the impression I got was he believed all other variables being equal 9mm performed the same as .45. My response was bullet technology what it is 9mm ammo performs well but no matter what a .45 of the same level is always making a larger hole. He made the point of penetration being more (18in) with 9mm. His entire thought process seems to center on 9mm is as good as .45 because it goes as deep and expands great with modern bullet technology.
My issues. So the heck what. No matter how well it expands a .45 with the same bullet ends up larger.
Yes you can get +p whatever 9 but you can get faster 45 too and the guns he has can fire even 45 super.
penetration to 18 inches is not to offend here but BS. Who are you shooting that is 18 inches thick! Im not exactly skinny and that would pass right through me. A bigger hole 10 inches deep is going to be more use on any normal "bad dude" than a smaller one at 18. Any normal human and you are hitting ribs and organs at 5 inches anyway.
So, dollars to doughnuts outside factors (capacity etc) aside how can 9 stack up to .45?
