a standard target-distance, I use 10" chest circle, and 10 ft, (weaver) or 6 ft with one hand. Less than 4 hits per second (.25 sec "splits" on the timer) is not acceptable controlability for me, and 6 hits per sec (.17 sec splits) are quite attainable with true carry guns, at such realistic defensive ranges. You will find that you must slow down a bit at 20 ft, even more at 30 ft, and forget any sort of speed at 25 yds, because adrenalin dump wont let you hold and squeese carefully enough