US criticized on "child" soldiers

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U.S. Criticized on Child Soldiers


By GEIR MOULSON
.c The Associated Press



GENEVA (AP) - Human rights campaigners accused the United States on Monday of
blocking attempts to expand a worldwide ban on the use of child soldiers.


Washington has opposed efforts to raise the minimum age for recruiting
soldiers to 18 from 15, as specified in the U.N. Convention on the Rights of
the Child.


The United States, which allows 17-year-olds to join the armed forces, fears
the proposed new standard could constrain recruitment and training, and is
skeptical about adding new norms when old ones are ignored.


A coalition of campaigners, including Amnesty International and Human Rights
Watch, said the U.S. position was ``completely unacceptable.''


The campaigners spoke to reporters as a working group of the U.N. Human
Rights Commission opened its annual meeting, trying to revive efforts to
draft an ``optional protocol'' for raising the age.


U.S. officials rejected the coalition's claim that Washington was attempting
to weaken any agreement by the panel.


Some 300,000 children under the age of 18 are ``actively participating in
more than 30 conflicts in nearly every region of the world,'' said coalition
spokeswoman Jo Becker of Human Rights Watch.


The coalition notes that the United States stands with Cuba, Pakistan and
Britain in opposing the 18 limit. Britain recruits 16-year-olds.


By making the protocol optional, the backers would leave it to each of the
191 countries that have signed the treaty the choice of committing themselves
also to the higher age limit. This year is the convention's 10th anniversary.
The United States has yet to ratify the original accord.


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Ipecac

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So they're children if they're under 18 and a soldier; they're children if they're under 25 and a victim of "gun violence"; but if they are immolated in their church by gubment agents, then they're adults if they're over 14.

Interesting.

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alan

New member
They aren't our "children", nor are they our "soldiers".

Perhaps these concerned folks aught to complain to some of the nations who utilize "children" as "soldiers".

A 17 year old, is hardly a child, except perhaps in the view of the "gun control nazis", though with them, parameters for all sorts of things seem to be a matter of rhetorical convenience, rather than anything with any sort of "hard" definition.
 

Karanas

New member
The pictures I've seen of true child soldiers, usually in Africa and Asia, are disturbing. Seeing a 10 year old lugging around a rifle as big as he is while his childhood has been stolen is indeed tragic.
But these UN idiots who think that they are going to end this practice with their "Ban" are seriously deluding themselves.
If one, or both sides in a conflict find themselves facing a manpower shortage , they are going to get the troops wherever they can. If this means raiding the local elementary school and impressing 5th graders into the military, then that is what will happen!
This ban will no doubt be just as effective as the ban on land mines that got so much press in recent years. Anybody who really believes that those nasty little things are going to disappear from the battlefield anytime soon should be made permanent point man for life.
 
Ipecac-
Ouch...looks like you hit that nail on the head.

UN-
Maybe you shouldn't worry so much about the differences between a 17 and 18 year old and start looking to the your own issues around untimely death:
- UN/TV Wars
- UN "Peace Keepers"...including the unarmed ones
- UN efforts to disarm Peoples while condoning the need for arms in the hands of Rulers
- UN policies of placing our youth in harm's way under the control of international political hacks who's closest experience to battle was a fight with their older sister over the hair dryer at age 12.

How 'bout you work on those a bit and get back to us.
Rich

[This message has been edited by Rich Lucibella (edited January 10, 2000).]
 

George Hill

Staff Alumnus
I inlisted when I was 17.
Infact - that was my Birthday present to myself.
My folks signed the papers for me... I was in boot camp before I knew it.
I was the youngest soldier to... well - I had some interesting career highlights while I was in the service.
By the time I was 18 - I was Been There & Done That, got the scars to proove it.

I think it did me good.
I had a firm knowledge of who I was and what I could do if I wanted to. I also had GI benifits! :D

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Danger Dave

New member
My 2 cents...

I think the UN should realize that it isn't just soldiers who get killed in wars. Does the UN have bombs and mines that can't detonate when in the prescence of someone under 18? I don't think so.

Drafting people under 18, I'm opposed to, but that's different from recruiting them. But I'm not under any illusions about whether or not any of the UN countries would use conscripted 16 yr olds if their national survival depended on it.
 

CMOS

New member
Let's not forget the "you can die for your country but you can't be trusted with a handgun" attitide.

CMOS
 
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