US Army M1911 Training Video
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Nothing particularly wrong with
the film.
OK, you can cite the cup/saucer hold
but that was back then.
But at least it allowed two-hand hold.
The reality is the Army didn't train
much with the 1911 back then.
Knew a fella who went through MP
training. He said his .45 training
consisted of two clips. That's right.
Back then it was clips, no magazines.
Now, when that film was made, it
no doubt was more important how
you laced the puttees. Sloppy
puttees, bad bad soldier.
the film.
OK, you can cite the cup/saucer hold
but that was back then.
But at least it allowed two-hand hold.
The reality is the Army didn't train
much with the 1911 back then.
Knew a fella who went through MP
training. He said his .45 training
consisted of two clips. That's right.
Back then it was clips, no magazines.
Now, when that film was made, it
no doubt was more important how
you laced the puttees. Sloppy
puttees, bad bad soldier.
chris downs
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I've never fired a tracer. It would speed up practice seeing where each shot hits without a close up view.
Tracers can and do start fires.
Once a fire starts.there is no telling how many thousand acres,homes,and businesses will burn.
We shooters face enough bad PR we really don't need the headlines "Fires caused by shooters firing tracer ammunition"
Thats one way to get vast tracts of land closed to shooting.
Once a fire starts.there is no telling how many thousand acres,homes,and businesses will burn.
We shooters face enough bad PR we really don't need the headlines "Fires caused by shooters firing tracer ammunition"
Thats one way to get vast tracts of land closed to shooting.
I'm pretty sure I remember watching some trap shooters using this and it was kind of embarassing for some of the shooters to be shown how far off target they were.
That said, seems like it would be a good training visual although I'm not a trap shooter. Does anybody know if it's still around?
Donald duck
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Years ago I was surrounded by WW II and Korean War Vets. They all had some military training on the 1911. But not a single one of them could ever remember anyone carrying the 1911 cocked and locked.
Marine Corps boot camp in 1969. We had some training on the 1911A1 as to field strip and reassemble. We also did a Fam (Familiarization) Fire exercise. I went in country as a courier so was issued a 1911. Anyway our main focus was the M14 and when I got to Vietnam we were issued the M16. 
Today the 1911 remains one of my favorite pistols. I collect the Colt Series 70 guns.
I also enjoy the old training films of yesteryear. Especially the training films on VD.
Ron
Today the 1911 remains one of my favorite pistols. I collect the Colt Series 70 guns.
I also enjoy the old training films of yesteryear. Especially the training films on VD.
Ron
Aguila Blanca
Staff
That's because the U.S. military manual of arms calls for carrying with the hammer down on an empty chamber "unless enemy action is imminent" (or something very close to that in wording), when it calls for chambering a round, leaving the hammer cocked, and engaging the thumb safety.Donald Duck said:
But in the military, you're generally either "inside the wire" (where enemy action is NOT "imminent"), or you're out on patrol where enemy action IS always imminent, so you would carry cocked and locked.
stinkeypete
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Dale, experienced shotgun shooters can see the cloud of pellets. A coach at your side can (does) tell you exactly where you are patterning compared to the target.
I want to watch that excellent movie (yea, that’s a training film!) again. While you might nitpick on minor details (that don’t matter really) I , the fundamental concepts are absolutely correct, clearly outlined and explained.
A man is walking across a field. Someone shoots at him. He DROPS PRONE! Heck yeah! Then return fire. You don’t see that in entertainment.
A friend was on the US Navy pistol team. A bunch of targets were lined up on a carrier and everyone shot at them. An officer hands my friend his target the next day and says “now you’re on the marksmanship team”. He was confused and guesses he shot pretty well compared to a few thousand guys.
I want to watch that excellent movie (yea, that’s a training film!) again. While you might nitpick on minor details (that don’t matter really) I , the fundamental concepts are absolutely correct, clearly outlined and explained.
A man is walking across a field. Someone shoots at him. He DROPS PRONE! Heck yeah! Then return fire. You don’t see that in entertainment.
A friend was on the US Navy pistol team. A bunch of targets were lined up on a carrier and everyone shot at them. An officer hands my friend his target the next day and says “now you’re on the marksmanship team”. He was confused and guesses he shot pretty well compared to a few thousand guys.
Military marksmanship is an interesting beast. I remember one year that the 2d Armored Division was represented in an "Infantry Team" match by teams from 1) the Military Intelligence Battalion, 2) the Signal Battalion and 3) the Artillery Battalion.
None of the infantry battalions even fielded a team in the division qualifying match for reasons I could never get clarified.
None of the infantry battalions even fielded a team in the division qualifying match for reasons I could never get clarified.
Donald duck
New member
These guys were all combat vets that saw a lot of battle. Still none of them knew anyone that ever carried their 1911 cocked and locked.
Donald duck
New member
Correct
Aguila Blanca
Staff
I'm a Vietnam veteran. Grunts in Vietnam (other than tunnel rats and some specialty MOSes) weren't issued pistols and didn't carry pistols. Officers carried them, but during my entire tour of duty in South Vietnam I never knew (and had no interest in asking) how officers carried their sidearms.Donald Duck said:
Cup and saucer. I've never heard of that, but as soon as I read your post I got it.
That military training video was actually pretty well done.